October 12, 2004 - Msg 24144: hello front porch

October 12, 2004 - Msg 24145: MD: yes, that is correct, I would have to get a referral..those wonderful HMOs. I was going to go to my primary care Dr. anyway for the possiblility of Carpal Tunnel, so I will take care of the knees at that appt. too. I just have to find the time and child care in order to go. What do they do for tendon damage? They have actually been ok the past few days..so who knows!
Yep..Joe Gibbs better get those Skins where they need to be!


October 12, 2004 - Msg 24146: MD-is there a race this weekend, cant see one anywhere I look.?
Alyce, yup,good idea, and we'll deputize Floyd too!
SPOT - how are you bro? Prayers continue for you.
Sherry, let us know how he's doing.
Good news possum, aint The Lord wonderful.!!
Ya all keep the debate in your prayers. I believe in my spirit that this election is SOOOOOO important!
Us porchsters can "rock" the vote too! teehee
Your 1501th debate reporter on the scene!

October 12, 2004 - Msg 24147: spot prayers for you I'm concerned and Do what an update.


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24148: MDC, I think you can identify the FBI guys because they'll be giving each other the FBI handshake. Not too sure about the others, they might be harder to spot.
As for your comments regarding euthanasia, you're right on the money. As I said earlier, there's a big difference in overt action and passive inaction. Euthanasia is an overt action, and I could never favor that. Passive inaction, or the withholding of extreme life-preserving measures, is much different. To resuscitate someone who has no hope of recovery to any quality of life is not saving a life, it's prolonging a death. I've seen it too many times, and it's wretched. It's reasonable to withhold the machines for someone who has been in a vegetative state and then arrests. The arrest can be a blessing. The rub comes when someone who has been reasonably healthy has a sudden event, CPR is done, machines are initiated, and then it becomes evident that grave brain damage has been done and there is no hope for meaningful life. Eventually a decision must be made, and it's very, very difficult. Now it has come down to the very thin line between overt and passive. Overt action could mean the administration of a drug to end life. Passive could be the removal of the life-prolonging machines, but some could see that as overt action. As I said, the wicket becomes very sticky at this point, and there are no clear answers. It becomes a matter between the doctor, the family, and what the family knows in their heart of hearts their loved one would have wanted. I have often advised family members to put away their own feelings, and speak for the patient who cannot speak for themselves - say what they know the patient would say if they could. Any way you approach it, it's very hard.

Enough of that, it's too heavy, and I don't want to go there. I've been there too many times.

Have a peaceful night's rest, friends. Sugarplum says hey! -- Romeena

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24149: Good grief.
Sorry. --Romeena

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24150: Well, how many are there??

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24151: There! For cryin' out loud, how many of those things did I put in there? --Romeena

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24152: Hey, does anyone know where I might be able to find a sound file on a Barney quote..."It's a compelsion complex" or "Listen, you'll find compelsion nuts all over".

I've done a fair amount of searching (including Emmett's sounds here on TAGSRWC website). I can't find it anywhere. It may not be on the internet anywhere, but I just thought I'd ask you folks who might have some insights on the subject.

Thank you!

Lisa G.

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24153: Lisa, if you'll e-mail Emmett he will make the wav file for you and e-mail it to you.

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24154: hey everyone...

I am struggling with those old Halloween issues again!! I need to discuss some issues with my daughters teacher today..I ask for some prayers to handle this in a calm, Christlike way.
They are at school singing songs about witches and reading halloween stories. I am against this. The teacher is also our preschool director at church so this makes it harder. I am pulling my daughter out of school for the month if they continue to sing these songs, etc. This teacher is the type that is very set in her ways, I dont see her changing or taking these songs, stories out for just one child. So that leaves me to pull my daughter out. My thinking now is that I will suggest to the teacher that if she continues with the spooky stuff out my daughter goes for the remainder of October..
Hope everyone is doing well today!


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24155: Alyce- I admire your convictions and you are the best advocate for your child. You will find the words that you need at the right time. As a teacher in the public school system - we have had children who did not participate in the Halloween activities and were given an alternate activity to do with an aide during that time. I don't remember how old your daughter is but I am sure you can come to an understanding in a Christlike manner.

Romeena - I always knew you were the BOLD TYPE!

MDC - make sure you have a good sharp pencil when you do your reporting. Meet us down at the gas station for a bottle of pop after the debate - I am sure you will be thirsty. We want all the details.

Do you think this debate will be as exciting as Aunt Bea and Howard's?


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24156: Homemaker: well the job has been done. I called and discussed the matter with her. She isnt going to change for my child, she clearly stated. I didnt really expect her to, but she needed to know where I stood and that if she continued to sing songs and stories containing those messages, I would pull my child..and I have done so. I talked with my daughter,who is three and a half, and she was fairly ok with it. She is just at an age that she will get confused, cause she is learning one thing at home and something else at school. She only goes two mornings a week, so I am not too concerned with her missing the rest of the month. Although I know she will miss it. I told her we would have school here at home and she was excited.
I have a load off my back, but I feel like the teacher will be grumpy towards me when I see her and that she will talk behind my back..cause i know she does those things..But..oh well..I know that I am honoring God.


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24157: hm, I just wish it were Aunt Bea and Howard running for President, then maybe I wouldn't be so concerned over who won, as I like them both!

Alyce, even though we disagree a little on the Halloween thing, you have every right to suggest that maybe your child can be given an alternate activity that does not conflict with your religious views, I feel. And who knows, maybe other parents who feel the same but are afraid to say anything will follow your example. Good luck!

I don't think I have ever asked for prayers from you guys but I think I have a request for one. Tomorrow my Mom is having a hysterectomy(spelling?), and while it is a rather common and routine operation, my Mom is not a spring chicken anymore and I know she is kind of worried about it(which is natural for any operation I realize, but she really hasn't had to go in for any surgery before) as are we. I know this isn't as serious as some of the other prayer requests I have seen here lately, but if you could include a short one for her in amongst the others, it would be appreciated!

Romeena, you are looking as bold as ever! ;)

-Sterling Holobyte

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24158: I guess I am a little late with my post, Alyce, but congratulations for sticking up for yourself and your beliefs.
Is there any other school your daughter can go to? To me it doesn't sound like that teacher respects other's opinions.

-Sterling Holobyte

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24159: Sterling: well she says she respects me. I told her that this was mainly a matter of respect anyway. As far as another school, she is on a waiting list for another program at the elementary school. So I am just "waiting".
And I am pretty sure I am the only mother with these beliefs..most of the others celebrate Halloween. There are only 7 kids there.

Prayers for your mom..actually, my daughters teacher just had a hysterectomy and she did very well..was back to teaching in a couple of weeks, really less than that. And she is probably in her 60s.


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24160: Prayers for Sterling's mom and Alyce. Homemaker- I'm hoping the debate will be more like Barney and Andy's where Barney stood up at the end and said he was voting for Andy. You think Kerry might do that? I wish!

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24161: Sterling, I feel sure that your mom will do just fine. I had a hysterectomy a couple of years ago, age 63 at the time, and did great. Mine was not an open incision, which of course made it easier, but I went home the next morning and felt wonderful, just a little tired. I could have gone back to work easily in a few days, but my cardiologist insisted I take my full six weeks paid leave. I thought about it for a minute (yeah, right) and decided I'd do what he said.

Alyce, though I don't put quite as fine a point on the Halloween thing as you do, I certainly admire you for having the courage of your convictions, and respect your opinion. You are the molder and shaper of your child at this point, and no teacher has the right to impose his or her will when it comes to moral or religious issues. When my youngest son was in first or second grade, he brought home a book that I was supposed to "help" him read. In the story, two young classmates were always quarreling, and their teacher's solution was to put boxing gloves on them and let them fight it out. In addition, there were a lot of words like "liar" and "stupid" thrown around in the story. I objected, obviously, and personally took the book back to the teacher. I told her I would not be reading the book to my son, and didn't want him involved in any reading or discussion of it in school. God was with me, as the teacher admitted she hadn't even read the book herself, it was just on a list of things sent by the school system. She read through it, agreed with me, and the book was pulled. Never be afraid to stand up for your child and for what you believe.

Well, I'm hungry. I think I'll go over to Bee's and see if she's got some cold chicken. She always seems to have cold chicken on hand. Wonder how she does that? Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24162: Romeena..and others: Thanks for all your support on this sensitive issue. Her teacher also said she thought people got carried away with these things..but I'm sorry..if that is the way she wants to describe it, fine, but I cant just sit by and watch her feed my daughter images of witches,etc. Anyway. I guess I need to get of the soap box for today.
Thanks again!


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24163: Sterling, your mom's not only got a short prayer, but a long one too! We lift her up now and throughout the day tomorrow!
I did more net research on Halloween, and our pastor preached extensively on it last year, it's origins and what it really is today, and it really is and evil day. I know we all respect opinions here so i just wanted to express this and back up Alyce, as well as what Mrs Wiley touched on awhile back.
It is the pagan or druid new year, and witches celebrate it as one of the four sabbats of wicca. The Church tried to counter it centuries ago by declaring November 1 "All Saints Day"
or "All Hallows Day" (in Old English),and so the night before on October 31 became known (in Old English) as "All Hallows Een" which soon became
just "halloween" , just as we change words today.
(Like "I've got to go" has become "I've gotta go.") Believe it or not, it started to counter the pagan day as a night of Christian prayer for all good people, but has reverted back to what we have today.
I admit, that is a real Reader's Digest version of what I have researched, but thought I would try to make more sense of what it was, what was done by the Church to counter it, and what it has again become. Soap box going back under the bed!

Homemaker, I agree, I'd like to see aunt bea and howard or see barney defer to andy, but this is the REAL world! teehee
Ro - Thanks for your thoughts about the whole end of life issue. The Lord set human life, as the word says, "just a little below the angels" and so we must look at our decisions long and hard!
OK, we'll meet on the porch tonight to watch the debate and eat cold chicken!
Goin' to see if I can lead the motorcade to the courthouse!
Your Tempe, AZ Reporter (with too many opinions today!) MDC

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24164: MDC: thank you!


October 13, 2004 - Msg 24165: Thank you for the response on my sound file question above. I'll try to contact Emmett directly.

Thanks again!

Lisa G.

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24166: I see some are still a little divided 'bout this Halloween thing. As a child I did the trick-or- treat thing as most everyone my age did. Now however parents have a more liberal view of things and should stick to their beliefs and they should have an alternative for those who don't want to particiate. We however, at our church found that our youth program could gain a lot of money and knowledge by putting on a "haunted school" and show others the wrath that might befall them if they did'nt walk and do as the Bible says. It was very invigorating and informal, but we scared the dickens out of the believers and the non-believers as well. We made several thousand dollars for our youth and missions we supported.Now the bad side. The fire marshal shut us down 'cause we were usin' fire and other violations without a sprinkler system in the building. Point is as children get older they are goinna' get exposed ta' lots of stuff that without our guidance they may stray from the path...let they stray all the while keeping a watchful eye for wood be atackers, watch how fast they run back under the dress tail from whence they came......P.S. Me and my wife uere the youth directors at our church for many years and still have young adults we taught tell us what a wonderful time of their life that was for them...BIG TOM

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24167: Hey Y'all! Sterling,your mom will be in my prayers.I hope things go well for her.
Alyce,stand up for what you believe in,even if you're standing alone. I've always held fast to that motto,no matter how hard it seemed to do sometimes.
Laci is home and doing great! Doctors said all of this was caused by the surgery back in August and that the atrial fibrilation (sp?) should go away in time.
Well,guess I don't have alot to say this afternoon,so I'll bid y'all a good evening and catch ya later!
possum under a rock

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24168: Ok, so there IS one more thing that this ole Darlin cuz don't follow:
If kids in public schools can't be exposed to the religious side of Christmas and Easter, why are they allowed to be exposed to all the witchcraft (a tax-exempt religion, by the way) that is part of this day? It is a definite double standard, that is for sure. Why isn't the ACLU filing lawsuits against these districts, like Alyce's, that allow it?
That would be an interesting thing to do, call them and see what they have to say!
I guess i just better be quiet before i get thrown off the porch!
Possum,glad Laci is doing so much better!
BigTom, sounds like that was one of those good ole Salvation
Things are really hummin here now as the debate is about 2 hours away. Rallies for both candidates afterwards. I may try to go to W's. will seee how traffic is.
have a good evening!
Mr Darlin's Cuz

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24169: MDC.. Busch cars run Friday at Lowes Motor speedway (charlotte ) cup cars run Saturday night at Lowes and the trucks run Saturday at Texas Motor Speedway .
ALYCE .. Tendon and Ligament damage usually requires surgery and therapy ,Romeena would know more than I do about that .Alyce as far as your Halloween problem ,I have no problem with trick or treating and the dress up thing for the kids ,but I admire you for standing by your belief of what is best for your kids

October 13, 2004 - Msg 24170: MDC: actually I learned today that in our county the schools are not to have the spooky parts of Halloween included. My thing is..dont have anything at all..dont use the term..if you want to celebrate..celebrate the fall season..Her preschool is not involved with any school system, so the teacher does what she wants. My sister in law is on my side and her daughter is in the elementary school here in the county..she flat out told them that if they can take the Jesus out of Christmas at school then they can take the spook out of Halloween..fall...whatever. She told them that if they are going to read stories about witches, etc, then she was going to come in December and read to them about Jesus and the Christmas story. Shes a bold one and I love her for it!

Big Tom: yep they are going to be exposed to this crap in this world, but for now, at my daughters age, I prefer to keep her safe from it now as much as I can. I dont want to shelter her forever, but at almost 4 years old, its a confusing issue to deal with for her.

MD: I'll get a check on my knees soon!

Take care all..

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24171: Mornin' Porchsters! Sure miss Spot's early AM greetings. Hope his recovery is going ok and that he will be back with us soon!
Lunch today, fried baloney sandwiches, grilled cheese, fresh milk, chips and brownies for dessert. Goin' off the health foods for one day! teehee.
It was total gridlock on our roads here last night! Post-debate rallies for both candidates
were well attended but also brought traffic to a standstill. All back to normal now!
I have been to many plays and concerts in that beautiful auditorium designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. Acustics are so good that a whisper on stage can be heard in the balcony!
Your Tempe, Az debate reporter signing off,
Mr Darlin's Cuz

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24172: MDC- that fried bologna sandwich sure sounds great. Does my heart good to know folks outside of SC eat 'em too! My wife thinks I'm a nut for liking 'em. Also, thanks for the debate reports!

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24173: Hey MDC and Rev.Jr, my Mom used to make us bologna "hats", have you ever heard of those? She would take slices of bologna and fry them until the middle puffed up, and we loved them! Never tried them on a sandwich though, I don't know why.

Speaking of my Mom, she is doing fine after her operation, just a little tired. Thank you all for your prayers and concern, I know they helped!
I will most likely go and see her tomorrow. She is at a hospital about an hour away and I couldn't go today because Kai had school, and I went along with her because they had a field-trip today and I said I would drive. We had fun. We went on a hayride and Kai fed some cows and picked out a pumpkin in the pumpkin patch. It was kind of cold but all the kids had fun.
Then later on we get to go to the Doctor so Kai can get her flu shot. I'm sure she will be thrilled about that!;) No, she's usually pretty good now about getting shots.

Have a good day everyone!
-Sterling Holobyte

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24174: so much i've mised in the past few dys so bear with me. spot= we are all praying for your quick recovery, god still hasplans for you and we're glad because your such an inspiration to all of us. ellen= how is your neighbors daughter doing? sterling holobyte= even though i'm late i pray your mothers surgery and adjustment goes well. possum= thank the lord laci is home- i feel god has a very special plan for her life.alyce= i will not beat the issueto death. we must all bear different croses in our lifetime, none as severe as our lord's i suggest you might want to mil her a letter or card saying that even though we don't see eye to eye on this issue, i hope we realize that we are sisters in christ and hopefully put this unfortunate incident behind us. i can find no where in the bible that celebrated these holidays or the date christ was born and he didn't celebrate birthdays however he let us know the date of his crucifiction, burial, resurection. didn't mean for a sermon iwas suggesting praying for her and writting her. pipeman

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24175: dix= just pray that an opportunity to have lunch with your frend- after the food arrives casually ask him to what he feels god wants him to do with his life, where was he raised, fond memories of being raised and pranks. what is his plans for his life and family? of course throw in a comment or two about yours and your just curious because of both liking a lot of the same things. homemaker= how's the goat farming coming along? mdc= thanks for the reports from the debates. was the food left over from the debate? ha. it was great. mayberry deputy= who is going to win the driver of the year?i quess jr. looks like cards and yanks in world series. i would have liked boston and the cubs but we didn't want to see our redbird neighbors cry. JUST KIDDING. GOOBER, MRS WILEY, MARY WIGGINS, BIG TOM AND THE REST HANG INTHERE. supper at my place. chilli, oyster crackers, grilled cheese sandwich's hot chocolate. a bonf
d fire to roast hot dogs and marshmellos followed by a hayride to enjoy god's beauty. pipeman

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24176: i love bluegrass music but can't finf
d any here, especially the old bluegrass. bluegrass gospel. funny in central illinois thy have several bluegrass festivels but none played on radio or sold in stores. i mea
t and had dine once with bill monroe and his band. one concert halfway thru got rained out and jumpin bill carlisle i invited to diner and we had a good talk about life. any idea's on where i can get bluegrass music? thanks. pipeman

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24177: hey Sterling....when we fry bologna we cut slices around the edges so it WON'T pop up like a hat. That way it lies flat on the bread. Slap some mustard on both pieces (regular loaf white bread), throw the fried bologna in the middle and have at it! Wash it down with an RC cola or a Red Rock and you're in business!

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24178: rev jr= you sure know how to live high on the balona. i have made the hat and filled with cottage cheese or eggs. good to hear from you.check my msg 24175 fo the chilli supper tonight menu. hang in there my friend. pipeman

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24179: Hello, everybody...got a minute to check up on everyone but will be heading to my mom's again soon.

Alyce, I am thinking that you should start praying because your daughter's teacher's first reaction may have been defensive but once she has an opportunity to really think about it she might change her mind if she realizes your daughter will be the one to suffer over her decision. So what is the big deal if a few children celebrate fall instead of Halloween? That would be far better than one of her students missing out on the whole month. It seems to me that if she really cared about the little ones, the decision would be easy, and if she doesn't care, your daughter is better off not being there. By the way, have you ever considered home schooling and getting involved with a home school support group or co-op? You would have the benefit of having control of what she was exposed to and also alot of activities with other children. I'll bet your daughter would love it.

By the way, I personally DON'T think you are over-reacting. I wouldn't like it, either. You know, we are at a time that we all need to be bold about our religious freedoms and rights, whatever they are.

I had better go get ready to go back to Mom's. Oh, I almost forgot to tell Asa that we had a real cool front come through this morning and it has been a beautiful, cool day today. Hoorah!


October 14, 2004 - Msg 24180: pipeman- chili sounds great since W didnt stop by for my bbq last night, i have some leftovrs to add to the menu. In honor of spot, we can also add fried okra, and jumbalya, nesbit's orange soda
and dad's rootbeer!
What was that cereal where the jingle was "shot from guns?"
pipeman- good thought on a letter. Keep the rapport open.
sterling - I'm kinda glad that there's a flu shot shortage. Have never liked needles and look at the business Im in! (But I never have to stick people!)
APB for Ro, Boo, frankie, Mavis, Jelsik, MPO, Ed sawyer, Mrs Wiley, funGirl, Hazel, Des etc etc,
Come out, come out wherever you are!

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24181: Ok Lefty, you and me's bustin' out tonight.

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24182: Boo, I'll take ya off the APB. Hope things go well at your mom's. We posted at the same time.
Glad south Tx is cooling off!
Forgot to mention that I love desert evening hayrides out here at this time of year. Chuch had one last year for young and old alike and it was so neat.
MDC "Way out West Hayride Dude"

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24183: PIPEMAN..Im sure JR. will get most popular driver again with Nascars hype of the little "god" and the media hype of him being the sucessor to the throne ,he will most likely get the votes ,his daddy won this award the year he died because Bill Elliot toke himself out of the running to give Sr. a chance at it ,and Bill had his name permanantely removed from the future ballots as well .. so sorry ..off the soap box .everyone have a great evening
mayberry deputy

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24184: hey yall...
Sterling: my daughters had their second part of the flu shot today. The baby does fine..My oldes, who is 3.5, I had to hold down, the first time, she snatched the needle out of her leg.

Pipeman: Actually..I talked with her teacher on the phone about the entire issue, and we basically talked about respect for one anothers opinions and I told her I hoped there were no hard feelings and she said the same. We will just see how it goes..I also see her every sunday at church.

Boo: Thanks for the support. She only goes to preschool on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9-12, so I am not that upset over her missing. She only goes for the social benefits and the structure. I teach her all that she does there at home. I think they should be a little more ahead actually, I mean they are doing colors..and my child knew hers when she was a year and a half years old. Anyway..like i had said earlier, she is on a waiting list for another program. And to be honest, she doesnt need the preschool for social reasons anymore..She is a social butterfly!
Actually, my daughter and I prayed for the teacher tonight, so funny you have suggested that. I prayed that the Lord would change her heart..if its His will at this time of course though. Anyway..I am sure everyone here is sick of me complaining about the situation,so I wont mention it again..
Take care,
Oh.. I fry bologna for sandwiches..and do the hat thing..never called it that, but in the middle is the best place for the cheese to melt.


October 14, 2004 - Msg 24185: If you ever get throwed in jail in Tennessee ya' eat a lotta fried bologna. Mine you I aint ever been throwed in jail, but I spent a lotta time there talkin' to them that had the miss fortune oe being apperhended of a crime that they did'nt commit. That was a real eye opener for my youth group. I took 'em all to jail one night and put 'em in the slammer. To my knowledge none have ever been back. Fried bolonga is a staple of life in jail, but it sure is tasty.
MDC, I think it was from Quaker Oats. The name was "Puffed Oats" or Puffed Wheat or somethin' like that. I kinda put you in the mind of "Sugar Smacks"...Big Tom

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24186: BIG TOM .. I remember Tom T. Hall had a song "week in a country jail " and he told about the jailers wife bringing hot bolony and eggs for him to eat
mayberry deputy

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24187: Was someone here near or in Pensacola, FL?


October 14, 2004 - Msg 24188: mdc= the ceral was sugar pops and it was advertised by andy divine.it's hard to work into a conversation but i love watching people's face when you say did you know and noone was near the subject. lefty is staying in tonight, it's been raining for 2 days here and still is. lefty likes to break out when it's a comfortable temp, plenty of food, nice fire and a fast get away car. sounds like lefty has gone soft. alyce= i hope i didn't upset you on my last post. i figured you did being the special person you are. sometimes there are people that will not budge even when we make an effort. i tell them i love them and i'm available anytime and will pray for them. i just wanted you to know i'm 100 percent behind your stand. my grandad used to call balony bull meat, ate it with crackers, cheese and a pickle. have a safe and good evening porch, until we meet again, good- night and god bless each of us. pipeman

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24189: (snifff, honk) I just love you all. --Romeena

October 14, 2004 - Msg 24190: Just checkin in. Hope you all are ok tonight. Those fried bologna sammiches sound good! I was raised on em too. Ya'll have a good night--Salty Dog.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24191: Mornin' porch. I usually post in the mornings when I get to work. I've really got to start checking in on the porch at night, seems like I'm missing out on some good conversations. Alyce, I mentioned (during the onslaught of hurricanes a while back) that my aunt lives in Pensacola.......Now, with all this talk about fried bologna sandwiches, I'm heading to the grocery store today! The wife and kids may be eating steak tonight but there's only one thing on the menu for me.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24192: This may sound gross but I like fried bologna sandwiches with baked beans and cottage cheese - sometimes all piled on each other - that's my gross-osity for the day. Sure do love fried bologna! I haven't really fixed it for my kids - the bologna doesn't stay around long enough.

We should be having baby goats again soon - we have several does to have kids at the end of the month and the beginning of the next.


October 15, 2004 - Msg 24193: homemaker, is there any way to post or email pictures of those baby goats when they come? My youngest daughter is a huge animal lover. I'd love to be able to show her pictures of "real" baby goats, not just pics out of a magazine. Speaking of piling food up....here's another southern staple. Butter beans or field peas mixed in with your rice. Douse it with pepper vinegar or, better yet, cut up some hot peppers and mix 'em in good. I don't know about the rest of the south, but in my part of SC that's a fixture in the country buffett restaurants. Seems like ALL I talk about with y'all is food! Ha! I promise I don't eat like that everyday.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24194: Romeena, are you gettin weepy or are you having car trouble? ;)

Thanks for the prayers Pipeman! They all help.

-Sterling Holobyte

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24195: good morning porchsters, so good to see the porch so full. sterling holobyte= prayers for you and your momma. spot= we are all praying for you and hope your home soon at least by oct 30th for our party at the remshaw place. anyone heard from asa, goober, mavis, fun girl, i sure hope those that have been away for so long returns, banjo jerry, county nurse, ky girl to name a few. hello homemaker, ro, rev jr, big tom,salty dog, alyce, mayberry deputy, mdc,boo, lisa g. with all the food and the holidays approaching i sure wish aunt bee would just call the man. if we have to eat it all at one setting we'll need plenty of alka seltzer. pipeman

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24196: mrs wiley= where are you? we miss you. pipeman

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24197: Rev. Jr. - check out this website for now:

That is our goat website and there are a couple of babies on there but none of the new ones. But we will post new ones as they come. My oldest son will turn 8 in two weeks - his birthday gift wish - a new goat of his own!

Take care everyone!


October 15, 2004 - Msg 24198: Good morning, everyone! No, Sterling, I'm not having car trouble. Just had a misty moment, reading all the loving and friendly comments folks were making to each other. Nope, car trouble never troubles me. I buy certified pre-owned cars from Sewell Village Cadillac in Dallas, and a new car warranty comes with them - bumper to bumper warranty. They even replaced a dead battery in one car, at 62,000 miles, and didn't charge me a dime. I don't put a lot of miles on a car, so I only trade about every three or four years. My present car is a '99 and only had 16k miles on it when I bought it a week after 9/11. It now has 34k miles on it. I paid $20k for a $44k car, and got a new car warranty. Not a bad deal. I'll drive this one until May, then will trade it just before the warranty runs out. Thus - no car repair bills for me!

Well, gotta run. Everyone have a lovely day. Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24199: Watch what those goats eat, dont want any of them to go "bluey!"
HM- I understand the wierd sandwich thing. I used to eat sardine and applejelly sandwiches as a kid!
Did Tom T hall sing "Country Bumpkin'" song in the 70's? I really liked that one.
pipeman - better get the brown truck off it's blocks, it could race against Jr. Saturday in Charlotte! Also you need to get it ready for the Christmas Season, or as you used to say "Vhistmas" teeehee.
Abby says hi to ya from the western site. She and i are about the only ones there now. Lucas McCain shows up once in awhile. He and Micah came to tempe to restore law and order!
Hey to sterling, MD, boo, Mary, HM, Rev, Big tom and everyone else. Prayers for all, the troops, prez, spot, mavis, laci and all whos ailing.
Barn :(in back room) me,me, em, ahh , aye, ahh ah
Andy (to rafe)That's barney
Rafe: How long's he been ailin'

Elvis loved banana and peanutbutter

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24200: Where'd the Elvis thing come from?
I didnt post it. Strange

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24201: Wasn't me MDC...but "thank ya, thank ya very much." And I think the correct pronounciation would be peanut butter and nanner sammich.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24202: Hello everyone! I haven't been to the porch in... goodness, must be nearly 5 years! Hard to think it's been around that long. Don't know if we've still got any of the same people from back then, but I'm Tally and when the next sing-along starts up, let me know and I'll bring my fiddle! Also made my first trip to Mt. Airy this summer and boy was it nice! Just wish I'd had more time and the day we wound up there wasn't a Sunday. Everything closed, you know. Anyhoo, lookin' forward to re-acquainting with everyone!


October 15, 2004 - Msg 24203: How ya doin' Tally? I'm a relative newcomer to the porch, but I sure have enjoyed my visits. Hope ya stick around for a while.
(by the way, can the rest of y'all tell I'm kinda goofing off at work on a Friday afternoon based on how much I've been posting?)

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24204: You're not the only one Rev.Jr. There's precious little left to do this afternoon and my boss is taking a long lunch and I need him in order to finish the rest of it. Just twiddling thumbs and posting to my usual (and unusual) BBs.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24205: I actually work for an advertising agency... (remember Darren Stevens on Bewitched? That's kinda what I do) I've got all my clients taken care of for the week, the media has gotten all their buys from me, etc., There's stuff I could start on, but quite frankly I just plain don't want to start another project on a Friday. Plus, I haven't taken a day off from work since July, so the way I see it, I've talked myself right into thinking that I deserve to goof off a little. Are the rest of y'all buying in to all of this? HA!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24206: Buyin' it lock stock & barrel Rev.Jr.! Better excuse than mine anyway. I'm a temp assisting 5 people at the same time and today's my last day at this assignment. I've been in this department for a month. Before that, I was in another department for a day, and another for a week before that. Next week I move to yet ANOTHER department. This has actually been the most reliable temping job I've ever had. All posts within the same company and never more than one day without an assignment (it's a very big company). It has been starting to get me down this last week and I think that's why I've started goofing off a bit. I miss working for my step-dad's business out in the country. I'm stuck in the middle of down-town DC right now and I miss fresh air!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24207: Isn't there a permanent stinch in DC... from all the hot air being blown? Just kidding. Kinda.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24208: Since I'm not native to the city, I can answer that with an honest Yes (except when it's not, which must be determined by two separate legal authorities in conjunction with five separate environmentalists, debated with every lobbyist, protested, changed for the worse, touted as being better when it's not, repealed, unrepealed, and finally given up as a lost cause when no one else cares because some new issue has reared it's ugly (but for some reason attention grabbing) head) :)

Ain't democracy grand! But it's like I said, I miss living in the country where you have to wave at every passing car in case you happen to be related to the driver and the neighbors get suspicious if you grow corn in the front field because then they can't see what you're up to at your house in back.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24209: Oh, and for all those neighbors out there, we were using the corn to block the view while we re-painted the house, put a rail on the porch and fixed broken shutters and trim-boards. Nothing as devious as you may have thought!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24210: I can relate.....maybe it's a southern thing but everybody here waves at each other in the car.(maybe that's why there are so many fender benders here). And my town has a population of about 30,000. Oh well, where's Pipeman with our menu for the night? I'm saving the fried bologna sandwiches for tomorrow's lunch.

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24211: MDC.. Tom T. did the song along with many other talented singers ,I think Cal Smith had the first big hit with the song "country bumpkin ",old Conway even did a version of it with Loretta

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24212: For some reason this Friday is starting to feel oddly like a Monday. HELP!!!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24213: Welcome back Tally! You may remember Boo and Big Tom, Romeena and some others. I have been here about a year. Cant ya tell by all the trash around my rocker? haha
Hope you can set a spell.
MD- thanks, i would like to get that recording somewhere. I think it's a great song of life.
Rev Jr - that is neat about the hand waving.
I hope to retir in the big sky country of Montana, and hope to find a small town where the folks still do that.
Rev j- some of us porchsters are also partial to fried cabbage and fried green onions. Some interesting variations have been brought up here also. Mind you, i dont eat a lot of fried foods, but do indulge once in a great while!
Company coming this weekend from Wis-khan-sin.
We're going out on the town tonight, and more sights tomorrow, including the big debate auditorium, so I may be a bit scarce later.
Stll rockin' whilst i can.
Mr Darlin's Cuz (MDC)

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24214: Thanks for the welcom MDC. I'll set while yet today, but I don't have internet at home and I don't know yet where I'll be working next week, so it may be some time after that before I can come back.
Enjoyin' it while I've got it though!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24215: Well, I have successfully wasted away the afternoon here at work thanks to mayberry.com! Tally, enjoyed talking with you, hope we can visit again soon. I'm packing it up at work for the day. Maybe I can check in tonight from the home computer. If not, y'all have a great weekend, my friends!
Special prayers for Laci and Spot!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24216: welcome tally= i was wondering who had that squeaking rocker, as gomer would say they just rock so fast that they never take care of them .ha. liked your story. abby= wyatt aka mdc and me aka doc ws wondering if you were doing alright. we missed our chats. maybe you can grab a rocker and enjoy our site. to the newcomers= big party on oct 30th at the remshaw place ,a dance, weiner roast and marshmello at myers lake via a hayride. plenty of music. the brown truck is spooky and ready. for dinner or supper, bbq, ribs, taco's, salads, okra, fried green tomatoes, fried potato's, sliced tomatoes, drinks, fresh fruit, cake and apple pie with vanilla ice cream. chow down. pipeman

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24217: Oooh, quite a list! Wish I could make it. Anyhoo, I've got to be heading out. Work's almost over and I've still got two tasks to complete. I'll see y'all later!

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24218: Evenin' Y'all! Appreciate the prayers for Laci,Rev. Jr. She's doing well.Hope the same holds true for Spot-love ya Spot! I'm with you on the Southern hand waving-how true! Also in my little town,nobody uses turn signals cause we all know where everyone's going! Ha! Ha!
Nice to meet ya Tally!I'm just a possum but they let me rock on the porch anyhow!
Sterling,how's your mama doing? Hope she's coming along okay.
Hey pipeman! Save me a piece of apple pie! Did Aunt Bee give you her recipe? Bet it's good!
Hey to everybody-if I didn't call ya by name I still saw ya rockin' on the porch! Love to everybody-y'all take care!
possum under a rock

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24219: Thanks pipeman for the ceral tid-bit. I got the gang together at work and asked them the ceral quandry. I got every answer form "Kaboom" to "Puffa-Puffa Rice" Well, ya' all have a super weekend. Hey Alice how bout the poison ivy? Looks like everybody in racin' is hangin' up their hats and sittin' back and lettin' the " newbees" duke it out. Rev. Jr. I heard that; its like you wuz' in a parade or somethin', and if ya' miss wavin' ta' somebody well ya' just" high hatted" 'em. Next time ya' meet 'em (no offense girls} they rake ya' over ta' coals, call ya' stuck up or high pockets,when all youz' doin' wuz' hangin' ya' head out ta' winder' fixin' ta' spit 'backer juice. If ya' hadda' spit then they woulda' reamed ya' out fer spittin' in their face. Aint no way ta' win...BIG TOM

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24220: Hey guys.. Happy Friday. I was just wondering.. when was that DVD of TAGS supposed to be out, I was thinking it was sometime pretty soon. I'm gonna have to start thinkin under my bucket again.. maybe I'd remember more. --Salty Dog

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24221: SALTY DOG.. The 1st season release has been moved up to Nov. 12th or 16th forgot which
mayberry deputy

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24222: Hello everyone..

Welcome Tally...grab a rocker..

Big Tom: the poison ivy finally went away on him..but he was soooo swollen!

Pipeman: oh no hun, you didnt offend me..I was just telling you what I had already done. My daughter is now telling everyone that she isnt going back to school cause they talk about Halloween and that it is bad for her. Too funny.

Rev Jr..oh ok, about Pensocola. We had a disaster relief team from church that was just down there staying at Olive Baptist Church.

Possum: glad Laci is doing well! God is Good all the time.

Well we are heading to the mountains early in the morning, so I wont be back online till Monday. Everyone have a great weekend.

Oh hey, Sometimes my oldest gets in the bed with me early in the morning and goes back to sleep..this morning the first thing I heard was.."How do you do Mrs. Wi ley"

I thought I would fall out of the bed laughing at her. Raising her right!

See yall...


October 15, 2004 - Msg 24223: MDC.. mediaplay.com has the cal smith album with country bumpkin on it list on the website ,I dont know how you feel about making internet purchases .. Busch race is at the 1/2 way point gonna go watch the end of it
mayberry deputy

October 15, 2004 - Msg 24224: Alyce, that is so funny! That's how I feel when my 3 year old says she loves Andy. Wouldn't people that didn't understand think we were wierd?

Its good to meet Tally. He (or she?) sounds perfectly charming....I loved the talk of DC.

Things are calming down some here but we had a problem with my mom's dog. Now when I tell you this, its ok to laugh because I did....ya'll know that my mom had a stroke 5 years ago that left her almost a total invalid and my dad recently had a small stroke that he is recovering well from. Well, here's the part that seems funny in some sick way...I have been taking care of my parents for over a week while my sister is out of town (she usually helps me) and have been really overwhelmed with everything. This morning my mom's dog was acting sick. She would just stand out in the yard and stare at the ground. She wouldn't eat for a couple of days, too. I thought the poor thing might be dying and I felt terrible for my parents. I took the dog to the vet and it turns out the DOG had a stroke...and why not, she is part of the family! Rather than cry, I opted to laugh. The dog seems to be recovering and finally ate something tonight. She certainly seems to have a strange 'far away' look in her eyes, though (heehee). Now, to top it off, while I was at my parent's, MY dog climbed the fence after pulling out of her collar and ran away. This is day two and no sign of her. We made phone calls and put up signs today...we'll see.

I happened to mention this evening to my hubby that I wanted some Oreo cookies and he went to the store. Much to my surprise, he just came in here and handed me a package of Oreos and a glass of milk. As he left the room I heard him say, "Ain't love grand?". I must say I have to agree!

I had better say goodnight to you fine folks. Have a peaceful night,


October 16, 2004 - Msg 24225: The Andy Griffith Show is the best thing on tv. It is the best show that has ever been on tv. Is this an Andy Griffith show chat board? I saw "Taylors Front Porch" and assumed it was.

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24226: Hey MDC, was that a put-down about Wisconsin or were you just spelling it phonetically? ;)

I don't remember you Tally, and you probably don't remember me, but you are welcome here just like everyone else, I'm sure!

Well, my Mom might be coming home today(thanks for asking Possum). Kai and I went up to see her yesterday and she looked Great! I was half-expecting to see her lying in her bed all disheveled with tubes coming out of every part of her body(I thought that because she told me before she went to the hospital that she probably wouldn't want any visitors the first day because she was thinking she might look horrible), but when we went in to see her she was sitting up on the side of her bed, and except for the unattached IV "hookups" on her arms, she looked how she always looks... disheveled. No, just kidding! She looked great. Wasn't pale or anything like she thought she would look. She even walked out to get us when we had to go and wait in the waiting room for the nurse to finish a test or something.
I think the hardest part for her will be not doing anything for six weeks while she heals, as she is pretty active. Hopefully she will just learn to enjoy her "vacation".

Have a good Saturday everyone!
-Sterling Holobyte

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24227: remember the commercial where the brown truck is racing the fed x truck and they arrive at the same time to see the new guy dhl walking off with all the packages? well some days are like that so i got to see if gomer will soup it up.ha. sterling= i'm glad your mom is home but you know how hard it is to sit still in your home. you see a 100 things that need done.boo= that was a funny story, maybe he was like us worried about spot. sure hope sherry will check in. possum= so glad laci is doing fine, she has become such a special part of our family.yes i used aunt bee's apple pie recepie and saved you and spot a whole pie. good morning to all the porch, krispy kreame donuts and coffee for everyone. mdc= it was good to hear from abby hope she visits more. trivia= since winter is fastly approaching. how many episodes was there bad weather in mayberry? have a great day. pipeman

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24228: I agree MSG 24225, TAGS is the best!
And we do talk about TAGS here but, like the "real" Taylors front porch on the show, we also talk about just about everything else under the sun, as you may have noticed. So pull up a rocker, sit a spell, and have a chat with us whenever you feel like it.
-Sterling Holobyte

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24229: Hey pipeman! I can only think of two bad-weather episodes off the bat. "Dogs, dogs, dogs" is one of them, with those selfish giraffes. The other is the one that Jamie Farr(or am I thinking about someone else?) is in playing one of the gypies who predict when it is going to rain. Come to think of it, I haven't seen that one in a while, was that TAGS or Mayberry RFD?
But those are the only ones I can think of at the moment.
-Sterling Holobyte

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24230: There was a bad storm the night Andy had to deliver Quiet Sams baby. And also, Andy, Barney and Gomer are all wearing their rain gear in "Black Day for Mayberry". And it seems like somebody was holding an umbrella in that one too. (or maybe I'm thinking of Regis's sign "Down with the Gold Standard".
- Hazel

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24231: Lawd, I sure missed a bunch of rocking up there! Thanks for askin after me pipeman - leaving for Denver on Monday, surgery on Friday. Trying to get packed and all lose ends tied up, it's just RUSH RUSH RUSH.

prayers today for all the porch and their families!
~ Mrs. Wiley

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24232: there was one episode at christmas with ben weaver too. as you can tell i like to pick out something to see how many episodes it occured in.i wasn't sure either. mrs wiley= you be carefull on your trip, your in our prayers and please let us know your ok when you can. ordered 150 pizza's and soda or pop depending on which end ofthe porch your sitting. also hot chocolate with marshmello's enjoy. since racing is on and baseball play offs i went the easy way for supper.busy, busy night tonight, in fact so busy i can't take in that new carey grant movie. pipeman

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24233: Visitor #24225, as Sterling said, you're welcome here. We talk about TAGS and a lot of things, and just sort of look after each other. Pull up a rocker, get yourself a Nectarine Crush, and set a spell! Tally, it's good to have you back. Don't be a stranger anymore!

Boo, sounds like you've really got your hands full. I'm glad your folks' dog is getting better, that would have been about all they needed, especially if they're really fond of the dog. I hope your own dog comes home! That's awful! I don't know what I'd do if my little Plum disappeared. There would be APBs out all over the country for her. I just can't imagine such an awful thing.

Sterling, I just knew your mom would do well. She's probably going to feel better than she has in a long time. She'll be tired for a couple of weeks, but then she'll be fine. Possum, it's so good to hear happy news about little Laci. That baby belongs to this whole porch, you know.

Pipeman, your reference to the racing trucks and a newcomer getting the packages reminds me of something I observed many years ago. I heard a terrible commotion out in my front yard and looked out to see a pack of assorted male dogs all bristled up and talking a lot of trash to each other over a lone female, probably a bird dog mix, who was evidently in a very attractive mode. Well, while all the arguing was going on, along came a tiny terrier-type fellow, about ten inches tall, who just walked up to the female, whispered some sweet nothings to her, and the two went trotting off down the street together, while the other dogs were still arguing and fighting. Finally one of them noticed that the female was gone, and they all gradually just hushed, looked at each other very sheepishly, and drifted away, one by one. I laughed for hours over that.

Oh, about the rain, didn't Opie's scout campout get rained out?

Well, guess I'll go feed the Plum, and maybe myself, too. Everyone have a lovely Sabbath, and get some rest. Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

October 16, 2004 - Msg 24234: Hey to ever'body. I haven't been around the porch in quite some time, so I'm sure I'm a stranger to y'all. Nevertheless, I know that only good folk hang out on the porch! If there are any Dan Fogelberg fans out there, and if you didn't already know, he's been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer that has apparently spread to his bones. He's always been one of my favorites in the music world, like TAGS is in the TV world. Pray for an old friend, will y'all?


October 16, 2004 - Msg 24235: Of course, prayers for Dan. May the Lord bring healing and comfort to him and his family.

Funny story about the dogs, Ro! I am happy to say that we found our dog, Belle, much to the relief of my son. She is, however in the local pound and we can't bail her out until Monday--can't wait to find out what it will cost us. My husband has been working all day putting up a 5 foot hurricane fence in the backyard. Hope it contains her! My parent's dog drank some water today and wagged her tail to greet me so that is a little improvement but I don't feel very good about the prospects of recovery, poor thing. It's very sad, really, because my parents are very attached to her. They lost a little dog 11 years ago and it almost killed both of them. I'll never forget it. It was the first time I ever saw my dad cry. I was confused because I never saw him cry at his mother's funeral or his brother but he cried and almost fell apart when the dog died. Later he explained to me that in the past he had pushed all his grief down inside him somewhere and never dealt with it but for some reason when the dog died, it all came out; every bit of it and it nearly killed him. At least he dealt with it at that time so maybe he won't grieve so badly when this dog dies (I can hope). Boy, nobody ever told me how hard this was going to be when my parents got older. I am trying to find the blessing in it and am happy to be able to help and support them.

Well, I can honestly say I have not watched TAGS in months...no time to. One of these days things will slow down a bit. I hope you all have a wonderful Sunday!