November 19, 2004 - Msg 25202: Yes, Mary, it is The Bishop's Wife.
The re-make of about 10 years starred Densil Washington and Whitney Houston, called The Preacher's Wife. it is pretty good and i heard tell that during some of the chior singin' scenes the Holy Ghost was really a - movin' fer reals!!
I like that movie where Bing Sings White Christmas! Holiday Inn I think.
BTW, ya all get to preachin' this weekend!
Have a good one!

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25203: I see I done swept the porch. Gotta get it ready for Thanksgiving!

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25204: Hey to the Porch! Just wanted to check in with you all & let you know I am still around, been really busy at work & trying not to think of the upcoming holidays, but I'm still here. I might not post all the time, but I do think of you guys all the time.

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25205: Somethin's bothering me, and I need to ask ya'll about it. Do any of you have on videotape the TAGS episodes with Louie Anderson narrating between shows? I'm watchin' mine tonight, and before the episode when Barney has Blue chasin' Neil I think, Louie Anderson says something like "Watch closely, this may be one of the only times you ever see Andy and Barney doing actual police work." That statement bothers me. They do police work in lots of episodes. What'll ya'll think about that?
Charlotte Tucker

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25206: Hey, Mavis! Here's a penny for yer travels. CT

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25207: Just read the archives~Charlotte that was me last year that said Sam Eliot twanged my buds, he still does! I could look at him all day!
Aw Paw, can't I even LOOK at a purty man??

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25208: WOW...I reckon Sam twangs alot of buds on this here porch. Of course Asa, he can't hold a candle to you. You're a bird in this world.

APB out for my TAGS videos. I am jealous that your all have received yours. I am chompin at the bit.

Prayers for all who need them. I reckon that would be all of us!

fun girl

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25209: Alyce, and Mary Wiggins, papershells are a variety of pecan. (Puh-CON) In Texas, pecans range widely in size and degree of difficulty to pick out (shell out). The little hard, round, thick-shelled native pecans are not much bigger than a marble and are very hard to shell out! In fact, I think the term "pick out" originated with the little natives, because that's what you do. You generally use a nutpick to dig them out of the shells in little pieces. On the other end, there are huge papershells, some over two inches long, with shells so fragile you can crack them in one hand by holding two together and squeezing. They literally just "shell out." Typically, the little native ones have a wonderful flavor, and the big papershells are much milder, but there are exceptions on both ends of the spectrum. The ones I have are about 1 1/2" long, fairly fragile shells, and the meats are reasonably plump and flavorful. Not as good as the hard little natives, but a sight easier to get at! There, that's my pecan lesson for tonight, except for one thing. Never, absolutely never, refer to a pecan as a PEA-can in Texas. You'll be laughed at unmercifully! Worse than when a Texan says "ya'll" up north.

Prayers, please, for my cousin Billy, who lives in San Antonio. He's very ill, heart problems, now a lung problem that may be cancer, lots of things. He knows the Lord, and isn't afraid to go, but he will leave a seriously grieving wife and the granddaughter they have raised as their own. He's a good, kind man and we're not ready to give him up yet. Thanks, friends.

Have a peaceful night, and Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

November 19, 2004 - Msg 25210: I thought it was you, Mavis. He must twang Fun Girl's buds too.

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25211: Yoo hoo! Wake up, sleepyheads! I can't believe I was the last one on the porch last night and the first one on this morning. That hasn't happened in a coon's age. Hey, I still want some feedback on my Msg 25205 question. How about a big breakfast this morning: bacon, eggs, pancakes, hash browns, orange juice, and coffee. Better than 2 poached eggs, whole wheat toast, and coffee black with one sugar, don't you think? I never could understand how coffee could be "black with one sugar?" Ok, so where does that line come from TAGS buffs? ( I quoted to the best of my ability but it might not be exactly right.)
Charlotte Tucker

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25212: Happy birthday to one of the Porch's all-time greats, the original Porch "Opie"! Remember 40 is just a number. A BIG number for sure, but still just a number.

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25213: Good Morning..oh my, its afternoon! The day has sure gone by fast. Time for a nap!

Ro: We have pecans (PEA-cans) ;-) about in the middle of what you described..not as small as that first one you spoke of, but not as big as the papershell. Who knows what they are called..all I know is that my daddy has been elimating the squirrels that have been coming around his pecan tree and taking them away..I know you wont appreciate that...that is the way it is around here though. I do make a mean peacan pie though!


November 20, 2004 - Msg 25214: ro= prayers for billy. it's still hard to believe we're getting older. charlotte tucker= sorry to here louie anderson trashing andy and barney. if you think of the episode let us know. sure want to watch it. i usually catch the unusual things just attention to details. thanks for the breakfast, it sure hit the spot. spot= are you out there? are you, mayberry deputy, goober, mdc, and the rest of us nascar folks ready for this sunday's closing race? i hope next year they go back to the old system don't you? mdc= you sure do a great sweep. it needed that. thanks. mavis= so great to have you on the porch, visit when you can. fun girl= sam eliot seems to be the bud twanfer on the porch.what are you doing for thanksgiving? alyce= if your like me i'm not very picky on what kind of pe-can it is as long as there's pies. one of the basic food groups you know. hve a great day everyone- cath you later alligators. ha. question? what guy or gal twanged your buds? we could have a contest for the bud twanginest guy and girl of the porch for 2004. what do you think? pipeman

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25215: Back to Holiday Movies.. Home Alone is on and we are watching it...My daughter thinks it is hilarious..I love to hear her laughing. (she will be 4 in March)

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25216: I'm looking for the episode name that has Barney trying to recite from memory either "An officer of the law" or "We, the people" & Andy has to prompt him with every word. I want to use the clip as a sermon starter. Thanks!

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25217: hey again..
is anyone decorating for Christmas yet? I am getting ready to put up my tree in a little while. I have to move the millions of toys though.

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25218: "An Officer of the Law..." is on the first disk of the new DVD set. I think it's either "Runaway Kid", "Andy the Matchaker" or "Opie's Charity". Hope that narrows it down a bit. I never knew it existed - the pre-cursor to "We the People..." I 'bout fell out of my recliner!! Also heard Andy refer to Barney as "Cousin" 3 times now. I only thought it was on the first Ep.

Tonight: Disk 2! So many surprises in store...

~ Mrs. Wiley

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25219: Two new "kids" born last nite - mommy and babies doing great!

the goat farmer aka homemaker

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25220: has anyone started cooking for thanksgiving yet? any funn stories bout thanksgiving? our oldest daughter moved ino her new house, everything new she had thanksgiving dinner in went to take a shower and there was an electric short and caught the house on fire. we tease her about where she would like to go for dinner that we really don't want her to cook unsupervised. anyone going to have snow on thanksgiving? tommorow chruch, something to eat and nascar, doesn't get much better. pipeman congrats homemaker on the additions.

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25221: FUNGIRL..Im in envy with you ,my DVDs havent arrived yet either
PIPEMAN.. NASCAR figures they have a money maker with the points system now ,so they wont change it

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25222: Hi, friends, just checking in before leaving for work. I'm working tonight and tomorrow night, so no church for me tomorrow. This doesn't happen often, and I really do feel stepped-on when it does. I know hositals have to be staffed on weekends too, but I feel like I did my time in the earlier years. My unit manager agrees, and therefore only assigns me on a weekend when she absolutely has to. So, I'm off to work.
Alyce, it's a shame about the little squirrels around your daddy's place. I know, it's a different way of life, but I just couldn't do it. Tell your daddy if he'll quit shooting the squirrels, I'll send him some pecans.

Well, off I go. No doubt someone is in our hospital having yet another poor little helpless baby that they can't feed, clothe or educate. If I sound cynical, I guess I am, but oh, could I tell you some stories!!

Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25223: Hey Mayberry Deputy, I got my DVD's today and I must say I am thrilled. We were on the way out when we checked the mail and found them. We checked them over while we were at Cracker Barrel and even talked to the waitress about them. You ain't gonna believe this folks, her hubbie's name is....OPIE! Not short for anything and not a nickname. Isn't that cool? Is there anywhere in the world you can go and not see or hear references to TAGS? The world is such a cool place. What would we do without our favorite show?

Gotta run....we just got in and I am gonna spend the next couple hours watching TAGS!

Hope ya got your DVD's Mayberry Deputy.

fun girl

One of my all time favorite lines from our dear Emma....."Naughty Depaty!"

November 20, 2004 - Msg 25224: Night Porch, another day tomorrow & I'm supposed to go to the breakfast bar with my sis & her bunch so I better get to bed & work up an appeti-te. See ya'll fine folks tomorrow.

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25225: TAGS deserves an award! Kyle is 24 and usually sits in front of the TV playing game cube whenever he can. Last night he watched TV with us. What program was entertaining enough to drag a 14 year old away from games and allow us some quality family time with a teenager? The Andy Griffith Show. He laughed out loud along with us. Isn't that cool? A big thank you to Andy, Ron, Francis, Don, and co. Also to Paramount for releasing these precious treasures. You can see in these shows major talent from an amazing case. But what particularly amazes me is Little Ronny Howard. Wow, that kid is loaded with talent. It's no wonder he grew up to be the amazing man he is today.

God has blessed us with TAGS. Aint we lucky. OOPS, Miss Walker said I could have a free ice cream if I stopped saying aint.

fun girl

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25226: Well, shucks. Kyle is NOT 24, he's 14. Guess I hit the wrong number key.


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25227: Well, shucks. Kyle is NOT 24, he's 14. Guess I hit the wrong number key.


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25228: Durn, I cnewed my cabbage twice. I'm goin back to bed.


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25229: am amazing cast, not case



November 21, 2004 - Msg 25230: It's OK fun Girl. If we had to arrest every peculiar person on the porch, I 'spect there wouldn't be anyone left. Why, I'd even have to reach around and grab myself by the britches.

Enjoy the uncut eps...
~ Mrs. Wiley

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25231: Good Sunday Morning everyone!
I hope everyone has a blessed day! We are up and at em this morning..too bad my hubby has to work..but got one girl dressed for church, now I have to make some muffins for class breakfast. Glad I got up early this morning.
Talk to you all later..


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25232: Ya'll are making me jealous talking about these new DVDs. Call me behind the times, but it sounds like you're getting them in the mail. Where are you ordering them from? Can you buy them in stores? You can tell I've been holed up at my computer way yonder too long.
Charlotte Tucker

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25233: I got mine at Best Buy, Charlotte.
- Hazel

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25234: CT - You can get the set right here from this website. Go to the homepage and click on the pix of the DVD. Good price, plus you support the site and mine only took two days to get!
The EPILOGUES are great! Barney in a judo outfit is classic!
Ya gotta get it! Best Buy, here or whereever!

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25235: mayor pipeman - heard you are giving out a plaque to Otis Campbell, direct decendant of Nathan Tibbs!
Good for you!

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25236: Well race fans ,the NASCAR season is over
champions are NEXTEL CUP .. Kurt Bush
BUSCH SERIES..Martin Truex Jr.
the race was good today ,lots of twists and turns and bargaining for positions ,just what NASCAR wanted when they messed with a points system that had worked for 21 years
off the soap box now ...everyone have agreat evening

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25237: You can also get the DVDs at your local WalMart store.


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25238: I got mine at Sam's Club Charlotte.
Prayers for Billy. I hope he gets better Romeena.
Nice to see you Mavis. Hope you are well. And you too Mrs. Wiley. Are you healing up ok?
I think I'm gonna go home, get cleaned up, put on some clean underwear and go pay Miss Peggy a visit. I heard her and Andy broke it off, and she has always kind of twanged my buds.
Yep, that's the plane, home, clean up, fresh underwear, then to Pegs.


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25239: Got my DVD from Weaver's. Follow MDC's instructions. Sorry to rub it in Charlotte Tucker, but it's goOOD!

Had 2 people come to me today at Church with "words of wisdom": "the times are getting bad - put your blinders on and look at Jesus" and "God only sends you cold when you're dressed right". I understand the first one, but any takers on explaining the second one to me? From a nice French gentleman. Maybe I shouldn't have worn earrings?

~ Mrs. Wiley

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25240: Hey to ya Asa, I'm healing up real well, I thank you all for the prayers. I thought of you and little Barney today - our Deacon and his Brother (the Priest) just got a new baby doxie to go with their full grown one. The black kind. How's your lil one doing?

~ Mrs. Wiley

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25241: Oh he's full of life! He reminds me of the energizer bunny, he goes and goes and goes.
Glad you are feeling good Mrs Wiley. It's been a rough year for ya.
As far being dressed right I reckon he means that God knows our limits and won't burden us more than we can deal with? Just a guess.


November 21, 2004 - Msg 25242: I believe it means God only sends you what he knows you can handle (kinda like what Asa said). So be prepared for whatever weather life brings you (stormy, calm). In other words, Mrs. Wiley: During our lifetime we travel many roads. There are big roads and little roads, rocky roads and smooth roads...
- Hazel

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25243: Hazel you are a bird in this world! Don't you change one bit! I'm off to bed, got lots of work to do again tomorrow, sure do wish I could find someone else to do it, but so far, no takers. Asa that little Doxie of yours sounds like my 2 Doxie girls, altho, Tink, the older one (8 now) has slowed down some, she only rips through the house 22 hours a day now. heehee

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25244: Oh meant to tell you all, part of the reason ya'll don't see much of me is because we are changing our business some. Since Mom passed away, trying to take care of her big Pet Shop & our grooming shop is about to do my sister & I in. Plus, the pet shop business is way down, I think alot of people are thinking we closed since Mom's passing, even had a few people tell me that when they saw me in other stores. Anyway, we are changing the pet shop to birds & bird supplies only & letting the other shops in town do the little furry & finned & scaled critters. So we will be grooming dogs & raising birds. Our new name is going to be 2Sisters Parrot-dise keeps with the theme of family, the grooming shop is called Family Pet Grooming. Keep us in your prayers that things will work out & that we can get through these upcoming holidays with not too much crying. I am dreading them so much. ((((((((porch))))))))))

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25245: Howdy Folks! Just dropping in to say hi. I've been around here before. I'm the guy that does voiceover in his spare time..

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25246: Howdy Folks! Just dropping in to say hi. I've been around here before. I'm the guy that does voiceover in his spare time.. Make a litle money at it anyway :-) I'm working on a Christian/ family Entertainment ministry right now. It' sort of in it's very early stages. I have a one man show almost ready to perform with clean comedy, loads of impersonations, music, ventriloquism, and I will mention last but not least, as a pre-show, I'll do my impersonation of Barney Fife! I'm actually about Don Knott's size in height. When he was young anyway...ha ha. I'm about "5 9" and I weight around 130 pounds..135 soaking wet..LOL! I have a full (almost authentic looking) uniform complete with the Mayberry Sherriff's department shoulder patch and badge. I'm in need of a hat badge for my service cap, but I'm not sure where to locate one that would look anbywhere close. I hope I can find one. I've practiced a lot on the impression to make sure I have the mannerisms, the voice, and everything else down pat. I'm even going to slick my hair back like Don Knott's for the impression. Anyway, if I get some pictures from my show, I'll e-mail them to the webmaster and see if they wanna post them. I love impersonating Barney. I can do Elvis and a lot of other impressions. But, Elvis impersonators are a dime a dousin. Barney Impersonators are few and far between. Don't you guys agree? Anyway, I have to go, Talk to you folks later...

The Impersonator

November 21, 2004 - Msg 25247: Welcome, Impersonator! You can impersonate Don for us anytime. We all love him, you know. Mavis, sounds like your shop ideas are very wise. That sounded like way yonder too much for you and your sister to be tending to. May God bless your new endeavors. Hazel, loved your many roads quote. Mavis is right, you are a bird in this world! Good to see you Mrs. Wiley. Don't forget to email my picture of your grandma again.
Charlotte Tucker

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25248: ((((Mavis)))), bless your heart. Just couldn't help giving you a little hug. I know how hard this holiday time is going to be for you, but you just have to plow through it. Your mom would want you to, and as hard as it is, you'll still make it. Have a few little secrets - hang a special ornament in her honor, that no one knows about but you. Make her favorite dish. Make a contribution somewhere in her name - like maybe the Humane Society. Send some flowers to someone else who is missing her, too. Get the name of a needy family from a church and take a box of food to them in her name. She would be proud, and you'll feel just a tiny bit better.

Whooeee! I've been watching my new DVD's, especially since TVLand has been running a "mini-marathon" of that vapid skinflick series, "Baywatch", all weekend. I do hope they're not planning to clutter up an hour every day with that silly show, but I'm afraid they are. Oh, well, I've got my DVDs!

Well, nitey-nite, everyone. Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25249: Oh, Romeena, you're probably secretly enjoying it. David Hasselhoff probably twangs yer buds. teehee. Just teasing. Couldn't resist. Those are good suggestions for someone who has lost a loved one, Ro.
Gotta go get that DVD pronto. It sounds absolutely wonderful. "During our lifetime we travel many roads..." Hazel, that one makes me laugh everytime I reread it! You're about as funny as Goober sewing up his fingers!
Hope ya'll have a great day!
Charlotte Tucker

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25250: Mornin' porch. Prayers to all that need 'em. Ro- you should see your package tomorrow (Tues.). Tracked it this left Memphis last night. Reminds me of when the gold truck came through Mayberry. Don't tell Barney!

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25251: YES !!! My DVDs have arrived ,watched o few eps already ,quality looks great ,but did notice a made in Mexico sticker on the wrapper ,what ever happened to things being made in the USA
MAVIS .. hang in there ,sounds like you are starting to move on with your life ,best wishes for you and your sister

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25252: Hey yall
MD: you sound like my daddy...not much is made in the good ole USA anymore it seems.

Boo: I made a Gooseberry order today...she said it will ship tomorrow..I cant wait to get the stuff...lots of Christmas presents I ordered..


November 22, 2004 - Msg 25253: wow so much fine info being passed around cause we don't gossip we justy pass around news according to emma watson tee-hee. mayberry deputy, i think the drivers could learn from kurt bushes tire. it was passing all the cars and nascar didn't even give kurt points for his tire never left the track. ha. asa= better walk lightly at miss peggy's. first barney is always interupting, then she feeds you well and then she gets you in her convertible with the top down and barney brings the whole town. but i don't suppose anyone will notice. ha. welcome impersonater. i can do mayor pike and sam the hardware guy, of course sam holds an unlit pipe and usually says one word or sentence. prayers and love for everyone. asa= did you get your dvd at sams hardware in mayberry? mdc= i'll give otis campbll a plaque only if he'll donate it to city. well got to get to work- you know this town don't run itself you know.mayor pike would say. pipeman

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25254: MD - As I heard it, the outer case is made in Mexico and the dvd's in the US, something like that. That's nafta for ya.
Yes, Winston Cup, er Nextel cup finally over, hope they re-think the whole deal!
Welcome Impersonator! As the porch told me on board games, did you try ebay??
By the way gang, I DID have a winning bid on the second Hands Down game I found!Thanks!
Mavis - our prayers are with you and the new business idea. hang in there. I really like Ro's suggestions too.
HM - CONGRATS on the new arrivals!!
The dvd quality seems great! Very clear. You can actually tell now that the "squad car" sitting outside the courthouse door is a painting!
(and dont ya just love the long lost epilogues?)
I can see we are are coming up with fresh quotes!
I love this one:
"Barn, you're makin' a big, boilin' volcano out of a little wet-weather spring!"
pipeman - will the daughters sing "Jimmy Crack Corn?"
Anyone here watch Exteme Home Makeover on Sunday evenings? Last night they helped a farming family and it was really touching! I think it's a great show, and they are helping good folks.
IT'S RAINING in Phoenix today.... high 55 !
Have a good day all,

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25255: MDC- we (my family & I) watch that show. It's always very touching. Last night's ep was especially good.

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25256: MDC...I also enjoy Extreme Home Makeover,its a great show ,they help a lot of deserving families

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25257: Gosh Guys and still kicking!..sorry for the delay from the porch, went to the doc and he said doing ok..broke left leg doing ok right crushed food ok [just gona take time],plated right arm just fine, but all in all a good report, got another truck sat, could not let the deal go by [cant drive for a month if things go well still in chair] but its setting here!..2003 chevy 3500 one ton dually 4 door with a vortex 454 in it, black...just setting here!..hope all is well on the porch and i promise i will be back in the force full time soon..prayers to all, eat well please..signed:SPOT the" hope I dont get my tail under my own wheel" dog of our porch..God Bless....

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25258: hope i did not leave bold on..if so help

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25259: i did...sorry....

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25260: cant make it out of practice

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25261: Great hearing from you spot! If ya need somebody to make sure that new truck gets broken in right, I'd be glad to head on over and take care of that for you. You're only a state away.

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25262: What happened with the bold? It's doing it on my end too. As George Jetson would say..."Jane..stop this crazy thing!"

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25263: MDC: We watch Extreme Home Makeover too.. We cry every time! Even my husband! We love it...I think it is a good witnessing tool for the cast and crew..they seem to reach out to Christian families and hopefully behind the scenes those families are sharing the gospel with those people. We especially like the show too, cause they use reasonable products. I love Sears! My husband likes Kenmore (although my dryer is messing up right now). Anyway..yall have a good day...going to search the cook books..


November 22, 2004 - Msg 25264:

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25265: f

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25266: Test

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25267: STUCK

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25268:

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25269:
last time

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25270: Whew...that made me tired.

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25271: Well, lets see if this does it?

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25272: We were all gettin' pretty BOLD there! teehee
Hey spot, I'll help with the truck too.!
Wow, looks like the brown truck may end up on blocks with that new one comin' round the porch!
Too cool! pipeman, brown truch has some comet-tion! (Funny, I'm thinkin' AHEAD of the censor now!)
Did you all notice the fine PORCH that they built on that farmhouse? Now they need a TAGS dvd !
Yup, Alyce, i agree, hope it is rubbing off on them all!
Prayers continue for spot, boo's family, pipester's kidney, Mrs Wiley, fungirls job, our troops and their families, and all other prayer requessts!

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25273: Thanks for your prayers regarding my job. So far so good.

Weather here was beautiful today. Tomorrow we are having Thanksgiving with my dad. Sunday we will have it with my mom.

Has anyone heard anything about aflamend? It's supposed to be a natural supplement for inflammation. It was on our local news last week, so we ordered a couple of bottles. They say it's wonderful. Made by a Dr. Scott Taylor in Iowa. Wonder if he's kin to Andy? When it arrives and I've had a chance to use it for a while I'll let ya know how it works.

Gotta run make a 7 layer salad for the big to do tomorrow.

Latre friends,
fun girl,

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25274: Forgot to mention that randy travis is now a follower of the Lord! Good to see him witnessing a bit on the show too.

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25275: Alyce- glad you said your husband tears up too. I didn't want to be the only man to admit to tearing up a little bit during that show. That show...and "Rudy"... and of course "Brian's Song" ....and who doesn't admit to getting a little choked up when Ben Weaver is on the outside of the jail looking in, singing....and maybe when 'Ol Yeller dies....geez, come to think of it, I'm just a big softy!

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25276: Rev: yea, you are a big softy!! But that is ok...You're probably like a teddy bear. My hubby actually tears up sooner than I do on those shows. I analyze too much (psychology degree!) We watched some old movie and the husband and wife just hated each other, finally they worked it all out...well, there goes my hubby's tears again! I guess I am the tough one around here..Naw..I have my fair share of emotional moments..especially when someone around me is crying...and of course when the Lord moves..I'm a river!

Waiting on Chinese for one felt like cooking.
MIght watch The Ladykillers tonight...anyone seen that..with Tom Hanks??


November 22, 2004 - Msg 25277: REV. JR. ... you got me with ole yeller ,I admit to getting moist eyes over that one

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25278: Com'on guys, how can we talk about a 450 cubic inch, dually, quad cab workhorse pick em up truck in one sentence and tearing up in the next!!
Just funnin' with ya all.
The only one I will "admit" to is the ending of Wonderful Life! Gets me every time! "That a boy Clarence!" Kinda gets ya right here don't it.
I guess it's Chinese tonight!
Ya all have a nice evening.
If I give you one end of this strand of lights, can you help me untangle?
Mr Darlin's Cuz

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25279: Hey yall.rev. come on over, keys are in my chair pouch,alyce also,hey MDC,MD,fg,thanks for who ever un done my bold mistake, and would just love to get back to driving something no matter what it is!..lets have late night snack, fried bologna sandwiched chips pickles tea...gona try bold again, if it sticks yall help me out,signed:SPOT...hope it worked

November 22, 2004 - Msg 25280: Hey now guys, don't start cryin'. If you start, I'm a goner.
- Hazel

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25281: Hello friends, sorry for not posting for a while. I really don't have an excuse.
Hey, is it wrong to just want Christmas(and Thanksgiving, but especially Christmas) to be over with? And I hate saying that, because I always used to love those holidays, but now I am just increasingly dreading their coming every year. So Mavis you are not alone. And although I could never begin to compare the pain that you are going through with my problem with the holidays, it nevertheless has become a steadily increasing stressful time for me.
I never used to understand when I used to hear that the holidays were stressful. Why? I wondered. It is such a joyous time, the birth of Christ, warm memories of family and friends, the treat of the trip to get the tree on a snowy night, midnight mass and listening to my mom sing in the choir. So why did they always say the holidays were some of the most stressful of the year?!
I guess I learned why after I got married and found out that my mother-in-law OWNED Christmas(and Thanksgiving). At first I didn't think too much of my having to have Christmas and Thankgiving with my (biological)family after or before the actual holidays. Then, after a few years of this and getting to know my mother-in-law better, I began to realize that this is how it is probably always going to have to be, knowing her selfish att-itude.
Here is her Christmas "tradition" that no-one(married to one of her kids) is exempt from: Everyone HAS to be with her(either at her house or at the house of one of her kids) on Christmas Eve, where we then basically sit around until 12 midnight(unless you go to sleep for a couple hours, but then you have to wake up again at midnight) to open presents.
That's it.
And I remind you that no-one is exempt from this. One year she tried to get us to wake up Kai, who was one year old at the time and SICK with a ear infection. I just about told her to go to H-E-double hockey sticks but luckily my wife had the good sense to stand up to her(this time) and tell her we were not waking her up! And she was visibly upset that we didn't wake her up.
I could go on but to list every one of my mother-in-law's possessive behaviors would take up probably two whole pages of posts.
None of the other spouses(of her kids) has ever said anything about this to her, but I am sure they have said something to THEIR spouses, as I have, to no avail might I add. My wife tends to think I am challenging HER when I bring things like this up and it just gets me into hot water. And her mom doesn't care about her kids spouse's families either. I know that sounds like my opinion but it isn't. I KNOW she doesn't care. I have heard her talk about them, and the way she talks about them. I was there. Thus one has to wonder how she talks about me and my family when I am not there.
So, before I take up any more space and do use two pages of posts let me just say that this is the reason I am dreading the coming holidays and just wish they were over.
I wish it didn't have to be that way. I have such good memories of holidays past.
So, being that there is sure to be a lot of good, heartening talk about the holidays on this here porch(and I wouldn't want to deny that to any of you), I'll just say that I may not be visiting too much, as I don't know if I really want to hear about the warm times and good memories you(or most of you) will be having and making. As I can be pretty sure I won't be feeling it.
Then again, maybe this rant will be just what I need to get over my resentment and think about the true meaning of Christmas. But it is hard.
Sorry for venting anyway. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade. I know some of you think I am pretty carefree and easygoing, and I am, for the most part. It's just this thing has been nipping at my nerves for a while now and every year it seems to get, ...well, nippier!

Anyway, you all have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year. And a good Thanksgiving!

-Sterling Holobyte

p.s. Congratulations on your election win, Mayor Pipeman! They couldn't pick a better man for the job!

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25282: Hey to Spot!! Sounds like you got yourself a nice rig - hope you mend quick so you can take us all for a spin in it. I bet it's NICE, REAL NICE!

Prayers for all who need 'em - guess that means everybody.

Anybody got any special plans for Thanksgiving? None here, my hubby may be on call over the 4-day wkend, so didn't want to make any definite plans.

Mavis - your new business setup sounds nice, and I like the new name, too.

Still haven't gotten the new DVD yet. Probably will get it at Sam's - I have a couple of GC's that I can use to buy it so it won't be out of pocket.

Well, we're looking for snow in the next day or two in the Ozarks porch. I could live without it, but I guess winter is coming on, so I can't complain too awful much.

Don't know much more than that - I'm springing for breakfast at the Cracker Barrel this morning - everybody's welcome!

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25283: You'll shoot your eye out!


November 23, 2004 - Msg 25284: Mornin' porch. Sterling- I can identify with your situation to a degree. Not nearly as intense though. Spot- hope I could handle all that truck...mine's a "junior" truck compared to yours (Dodge Dakota)! HM- I had to laugh at your line. Remember the scene where the family ends up at the chinese restaurant for Christmas dinner? Well, that's gonna be my family this Thursday. Long story in-laws are going out of town. My parents are using my uncle's condo at the beach and thought it would be great for us to come down with them. The plan is to find an open restaurant on Thursday for lunch. May be chinese, may be mexican, may be burgers. At this point, I might as well accept the fact that our traditional Thanksgiving is down the tubes. I guess it'll be an adventure. At least we'll be together. Did that make you tear up MDC? Me neither.

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25285: Good Morning..
Sterling: I hope you dont vanish from the porch during the holidays. I read your post and just want to reach out to you.
Is your MIL saved? She seems to have such a selfish, non understanding nature about herself..and one with Jesus in their heart would not portray these qualities. It is a good time of year to do some serious witnessing to her...and I dont mean you have to be the one,as I know all too well that family is the hardest to witness too. It sounds like it is time for new traditions in your family. And you know what? Someone has GOT to stand up to this woman. SHe is walking on top of you all and the holidays shouldnt be miserable for anyone. It is obvious that you are dealing with two women seems that you arent getting much support from your this true? I hate that for you if it is..What we need is the support of our spouses... Man (or woman) must leave his parents and cleave to his spouse. (I cant remember the actual scripture on that...but it was read at my wedding and I do remind my husband of that) Of course there is a special bond and relationship with a mother and daughter...BUT...there should be a GREAT bond with that of wife and husband. Your wife and you need to sit down and have a heart to heart..this is going to be tough on Kai..she will sense the tension that you are having during the holidays..and dont we want it to be so special for her? We have to show God's love..especially now...if it means breaking tradition and starting new ones..Your mother in law has had her time...many years of its YOUR time..with your family. I could go on and would be a great phone conversation. I too have In law I could talk about this forever! I did stand up to my mother in law one year actually..although it wasnt like your situation...but it was over Christmas..and how we were spending it..and I won that battle too, I might add..
I hope you will stick around and I hope that change will come soon...good change...

Everyone else have a great day...It is raining here and we are going to go and finish our Christmas shopping today!!

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25286: I'm still looking for the episode name where Andy has to prompt Barney on every word as Barney tries to recite from memory, the law officer's code "An officer of the law.." or the episode where Andy again has to prompt Barney for every word for "We, the people". Barney pulls his hair down, squishes his face like it's a real pain to recall the words. After both times, Andy asks Barney if he wants to go over it again & Barney replies, "No, I've got it!". Anybody know the names of these episodes? I'm not making this up - really! Thanks

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25287: If ya'll want a good cry - watch Reba's new video "He Gets That From Me." - Tears me up everytime! Everyone in my family laughs at me because I get teary-eyed over everything. . .Brian's Song - geesh - that is definitely a two boxer of kleenexes!
RevJr - the movie is supposedly from an IN guy - the fragile leg lamp is on display at a museum in Indianapolis. Would love to go see it!
Sterling - I feel for you . . .truly . . .that's why we are doing our own thing for thanksgiving this year. The boys are helping me cook - the youngest wants smores for thanksgiving - I better get the supplies in!



November 23, 2004 - Msg 25288: PD - you may want to try the "Bulletin Board" section of this website. Those folks there know everything from barney's middle name to what Emmit SHOULD have gotten his wife for their anniversary!
Sterling - man, what can I say, I think we all have experienced your situation to some degree.
When you were engaged, did you get ANY inkling that this control freak was to be your mother-in Law, and start to talk to your fiancee about her?
Just wondering when it first hit you that this wasnt your idea of Christmas? I am not trying to be a smart aleck either, I am just rying to get some history of the problem to offer some suggestions on how to change it. Have done volunteer counseling for 20 years now, and would like to help off the porch, if you like.
As some have said, Kai is of the age now to where YOU need to start some of your OWN family Christmas traditions!
Anyway, there's my input, hope we can continue.
Prayers for all the porch,

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25289: Well, Alyce, I don't know if she is saved. She is Mormon, but I don't that she is practicing that much or at all. And it is true about the wife, unfortunately. Sometimes I think that we are in a compet-ition about everything with each other. Yeah, someone has to stand up to MIL, at least suggest something else, and if I get my gumption up, I just might be the one to do it. Of course I'll probably be sitting in divorce court if I do, so I kind of have to weigh that in.
But thanks for your input, Alyce, and Rev Jr and homemaker. I really appreciate it! And don't worry, I'm not going to vanish from the porch completely. This porch is hard to stay away from.
Mostly it's just because I don't want to be complaining about the holidays to you fine folks, ala Ben Weaver.
-Sterling Holobyte

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25290: wow spot= it's great to hear from you. we all miss you. the brown truck can use a rest, i quess that puts me about 4th or 5th on the list. you, rev jr. mdc, sterling and me. hang in there spot. prayers for everyone and our troops and there families. well today marks the 41 st anniversary of JFK'S assasination. hard to believe it's been so long. sterling= prayers for your situation, i agree with alyce but when your caught in a no win senerio it's difficult to make a decision. i'm thankfull that we always let the kids decide where the get together is and usually about two hours for us. we feel they should have heir own traditions that their kids will remember. we've had our time and just time together makes it well. got to eat light today for tommorow we have to stock up for the winter, go for it mdc. sending my love and thanks for each of you, you are all a special gift that keeps on giving year around. anyone shopping the day after thanksgiving till they drop? it only takes me about 30 min and i'm ready to drop. ha. pipeman

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25291: Hey Sterling...I think you should be called Howard Sprague...its just the controlling Mother in law, instead of your own mother!
Well Mormons believe differently than Christians..I cant remember what exactly it is though..the difference that is. Lets get her into a good ole Southern Baptist church, just teasing..I know everyone isnt Baptist either.. But we have to love God and believe that he sent Jesus to die for us on that old rugged cross.

MDC: I have a degree in psychology, so I kinda do the analyzing too.

Sterling: You and your wife might need to get MDC's number..since he has counseled couples. Its going to take A LOT of prayer!!! We cant change each other, but the Lord can change our hearts and others in amazing ways. I pray that your wife's heart be changed..her mother too..and you know what..maybe yours too..We all can use a little modifying from the Almighty!!

Well I am off..still in PJs...its almost noon!! Been busy doing dirty work, like cleaning out the fridge...anyone have kids needing a science experiment? Come on over..there is something brewing in my fridge (well it was)..
Ok, off to the mall and Bass Pro Shops!


November 23, 2004 - Msg 25292: on dec 5th, i believe on abc they are going to have a great movie. mitch albom's the five people you want to meet in heaven. i read the book it's great. he did tuesday with morrie book and jack lemmon starred in the tv version. i'd quess about a four box tissue type. mayor pipeman

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25293: Oh, dear, Sterling. You do indeed have a problem. I can't speak from the same experiences, but I have learned that flexibility is essential. As a nurse, I always had to work either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, and my family learned to adjust. I remember one Christmas Day, I called home around 11a.m. to see how things were progressing on dinner (we were going to make it an evening meal when I got home). My dear husband and the kids were going to cook. Over the phone, I could hear shrieks of laughter and my husband was just barely covering his own laughter. I asked what on earth was going on, and was told that my two daughters had the turkey by the wings and were making it "dance" on the countertop. They said it was doing the turkey trot! Anyway, when I got home, we all sat down to a delicious meal, as good as anything I could have prepared. A lot was learned that day. We learned that being together was the main thing, even if it wasn't at the traditional hour. My kids learned a bit about cooking, gained a little confidence in that arena, and gained some respect for the amount of work that their mom put into making meals for them. I learned that I wasn't the be-all and end-all in the kitchen, that my family could help a lot, and maybe even discover some new things.

I agree with MDC, someone is going to have to take some of the control away from this woman. It's got to happen, but it will be best if you can just gently and lovingly ease a little of the control away. If you're confrontational or forceful, to put it bluntly, you're gonna have a big old snot-flyin' fight on your hands! Don't go into any discussion without being fully "prayed-up" first, being careful to pray for your MIL especially, and include your wife in the prayer session. Make sure the two of you are together, that she will back your hand, or you're going to go down in flames. I, too, would like to try to help. My credentials aren't formal, but I have four adult children and we've always managed to make the holidays work. Feel free to email me if you'd like to discuss it off the porch.

Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25294: Hey MDC, we must have posted at the same time, I didn't see you there.
To answer your first question, no. Even when we were first married I wondered why(as I did about holiday stress) alot of people didn't like their mother-in-law, because she was pretty cool then.
I actually had an inkling when about the possessive behaviour when we were living in the same state as the MIL and we would talk about leaving, you know, trying to put a guilt trip on her daughter; getting depressed; that kind of thing. What solidified it was after Kai was born. Then the brainwashing of Kai began, endless choruses of getting Kai to say her name and to get it into Kai's head that she loves MIL; coming up and staying with us EVERY(and I do mean every) weekend to be around Kai; getting a local newspaper reporter friend to do a story for mothers day on her and her daughter and Kai; After we finally did move, calling every day for a while leaving messages, not to her daughter, but to, you guessed it... Kai. Now, this is kind of understandable being that Kai is such a lovely little girl(I'm not biased :)), but when we(my wife and I) can't even make out a will because of who we were going to leave to look after Kai should something happen to us - and it wasn't the MIL - but someone we mutually agreed on would be best to look after Kai, and the telephone conversation my wife had after MIL found out it wasn't her, wasn't pretty. "I don't care! I WANT KAI!!" was the exact phrase used. Plus the angry and hurt email my wife received(more of that "guilt" stuff). Now does that sound like a reasonable person?
Sorry again, geeze, and I said I didn't want to be complaining anymore. Just wanted to answer those questions, but this is a porch, not a couch, so I'll stop ranting.
You're right though, MDC, we should be making our own Christmas traditions, I hope we can do that soon. Maybe not this year, but maybe the next.
You all have a good day. And I'll try to focus on the true meaning of the holidays.
-Sterling Holobyte

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25295: I'll meet ya at CB AFD! Many thanks! Charlotte, the Cutlass has moved, so I'm gonna need your email addy again to send thst pic. Mavis, hang on tight dear, we're praying for your family and the new businesss venture. SPOT! That truck sounds nice! Bet you can't wait to drive her. Hope your healing up is speedy.

Sterling, I am feeling sorry for your predicament. M-I-L sounds like a tyrant. Don't folks like that just frost you? I think the most meaningful Christmas I had was a couple years back (in between marriages) when I was too poor to go home. Spent the holidays alone (and I mean TOTALLY alone). Just me 'n Jesus.

~ Mrs. Wiley

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25296: It's no wonder why you were elected Mayor, Pipeman. Nice sentiments.

Thanks for the prayers, Alyce. Can never have too much of that.

Funny story about the turkey, Romeena! I just hope everything was well-cooked and nobody got the "trots" besides the turkey. ;)

-Sterling Holobyte

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25297: hm- there are several catalogs where you can order the leg lamp. Believe it or not, my wife wants to get the big version of it once we get into a new house (next year this time). It will go into the "man room." Ro- let me know when you get your package.

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25298: Geeze, I keep missing people in between posts. Wonder what causes that?!
-Sterling Holobyte

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25299: Sterling, since we havent had any interlopers lately, and this page is going to "archive" soon,
I feel pretty safe giving you my email address here! Of course, our porch names will forever be
nixed,:) but that's ok, because I can "feel the pain" in your posts, and maybe i can help. It's
So, email me there if you like.
Otherwise, i concur totally with Romeena, Alyce and others that it has to be a "kid gloved"
prayed up, conversation, or, even as you say, "divorce court" could be around the corner.
I may be able to help with what to say, how to say it, and when to say it.
Prayers are starting for you as I type!
Barn: "This is a jailhouse, let's show some respect!"

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25300: mayorpipeman - was watching "the guitarist" ep on my dvd last night, so here's one for you and me,
a couple of model railroaders... "Ridin' on that new river train, ridin' on that new river train,
same old train that brought me here, gonna take me back again!"
The fleet band is back in town,gonna hire Jim Linsey!
One neat thing I found that i like to do with the new dvds is this: if you have pause and zoom, you can zoom in and see a lot of neat stuff in the backgrounds, like in the drugstore, for example, i saw an old Good Housekeeping magazine on the newsstand by the door, and pipes and combs clipped onto a display card. remember those?
Anyway, have a good day.
We're havin' Lasagna tonight, my wife's homemade kind, delish!
Andy: "Jim, you're interruptin' my iffin'"

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25301: Hello - o - o - oo, so many empty rockers!

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25302: rainin' here.....had to step off the porch to get my waders...

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25303: MDC- my father in law worked for the railroad for 40 years. He retired at 60 just a year ago. I was priviledged enough to give the speech at his retirement party. I think you probably know me well enough by now to know I had to make it humorous. I told the story of a young man enduring the merciless summer heat, the bitter coldness of winter, etc., to put food on the table, blah, blah, blah. I set it up so that everyone in the room thought I was telling the life story of my father in law. Of course I never mentioned his name specifically, nor his job. I began each paragraph with "yes, this is the story of a man....." Finally, I ended with "This is the story of a man named...... Harry Carson, of the New York Giants." It was a true story because Harry Carson grew up in the same section of town as my father in law, went to the same high school, etc.,. They never saw it coming. Best punchline I've ever given in my life. Of course I let him off the hook moments later by giving a short, sappy finale. He still hears about it from his old railroad buddies..."your son in law is a NUT!"

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25304: PD, you'll find Barney's recitation of the law officer's code in Episode #4, "Ellie Comes to Town." As for the preamble to the Consti-tution, I know the scene well, but at the moment am not sure exactly which episode it's in. The preamble recitation is one of the sub-scenes, not the focus of the episode, and Barney's goofiness fits into so many, it's hard to remember where this one scene occurs. Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25305: Don't you just love those episodes with Emma Watson in them calling Andy a bad ba-ad sheriff and telling Barney he's a naughty deputy. I love her comment to Ellie,"young lady, I'm going downhill fast and your the one who pushed me"! She was a pistol.


November 23, 2004 - Msg 25306: kinda of busy right now, getting ready for a couple of friends to stop by and move a 9 ft train table over from a neighbors house. afd= you snuck in under the wire on me. we've been praying and missing you a heap. mdc= yeah that song always clutches me and the one he sings to ben sewell- dig my grave with a silver spade.mdc= interloper, interloper, i didn't know if you missed them or not so i covered it.ha. sterling the lord will lead you on what to do, we're praying for you. asa= great hearing from you. rev jr= that was a great story with your father-in-law. i'll bet he has a lot of railroad collectibles and pictures about railroading. maybe you, mdc and i can spend a day looking them sometime. as andy would say i believe i'll turn in now. oh phantom fife strikes again. pipeman

November 23, 2004 - Msg 25307: me too pipe. headin' home. Ro- remember, cook with it to tone it down.