October 03, 2006 - Msg 46045: Hey Y'all,
Things are quite busy. Mexican sounds awesome, Spot.
A few quick comments. Personally, I would give just about anything to put my kids in private school or homeschool, especially Bryson. I do not know how to teach a dyslexic child to read, and private schools are too stinkin' expensive in Atlanta. I really miss not sharing our lives one on one. He really hates church now and opposes all things organic (this, the son of a naturopathic doctor). Anyway, sometimes there are no other options, but public school. All you can do is be involved and pray until you can't pray anymore!
I really feel bad for the Amish community. The second largest community is Holmes Co. Ohio where hubby was born and bred. We love to visit their farms as often as possible. I really hope they can overcome this. Has anyone seen Devil's Playground? Its a documentary on Amish's rumspringah (spell?). Very interesting.
On one of the baptists church's billboard it said
Ch ch
What's missing?
Well, things are to be done around the house. I'll hopefully check in tonight. Please keep praying!
Oh, have any women read the book Created to be his Help Meet by Debi Pearl? Go onto nogreaterjoy.org and check out their organization. This is my second time reading this book and it is a blessing for our marriage, which is kind of faltering right now.

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46046: Whoa, cool, I swept. Man the house work just keeps on coming!

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46047: Have a safe and successful trip, spot!

Praises to the Lord for Laci's progress!

Prayers for all you porchsters, our nation and all of its citizens.

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46048: Hello Porchsters,prayers for all in need .Gonna read the archives .MDC..how did you like the racing this past weekend ?

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46049: Frappr tonight at 8:30pm eastern, 7:30 central, 6:30 mountain and 5:30pm pacific time for anyone interested. See my previous post for the link.

from Poor Horatio

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46050: Need to delay the Frappr chat session by one hour. It's on tonight for 9:35pm eastern, 8:35pm central, 7:35pm mountain and 6:35pm pacific. Everyone is invited.

from Poor Horatio

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46051: i went to Frappr...i joined and do I just use the box on the right side to chat?

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46052: Good sweep Lucy....hey to all...guess im ready for my 14 hr trip in the morning!..Yall check out the wed site International Linemans Rodeo...Big Maud you and Lucy and Mil and Rev feed everybody...gona miss yall will be back Sunday but the motel has internet so I will try to holler at yall...well 3:30 am comes early...and a 900+ mile drive ahead of us!..yall please say a prayer for our safe trip...thanks...breakfast will be on Lucy!...SPOT

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46053: Spot- Be safe! Enjoy the rodeo.
Breakfast will be country ham and biscuits, hashbrown casserole, fruit salad with dip, and your choice of drinks.
Y'all have a good day tomorrow.

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46054:
Romena, I remember those little bottles! Now I'M showing my age. Ha Then came the waxed cartons with the little lids with a staple to hold them to the carton. We used to dump our veges in there to get past the "monitor!" ha
My computer at work is RESTRICTED! So i cant visit at lunchtime. Sorry i wont be aound as much, but my prayers are sure with ya all!
God bless the Amish. I think we all need to slow our pace, like in Man in a Hurry! I prayer for our world everyday. Imagine the rude awakening that coward got!
Sterling, I hope Kai is doing ok.
MD- I misssed the race! but I sure heard about it!
Boo, those were wonderful words! thanks so much for exprressing. Jeses said "as it was in the days of Noah.." Check out Genesis. May God and his angels take charge over us!
MeThey- I agree about the restrictions, but MAN-MADE things like chemical preservatives and microwaves and genetics, hormones etc that are messing up our food these days! ha (well... (as andy would say.)
I watch the ep with Frankie Flint last night.
Ellie: How's Andy smell?
Barn: Like a gardenia blossom. (Midnight Madness ya know)
God bless,

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46055: Thanks Boo and ph for being there for me tonight,I needed friends, and you were there.

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46056:
Hey Folks

Can't get at today's archives yet so I'm not sure what y'all had to say.

Boy, I was as mad as a hatter this morning. The two school shootings and the Foley caper really got at me. But, as I was getting things done around the house today I found a picture that my youngest daughter was drawing last-night, I horse we use to have, and (this my sound a little simple) I remembered how good my life is. I would be picking my daughters up from school just like I always do. They'd be in the car jabbering away, a-mile-minute. I'd be tucking them into bed tonight. I really feel for those families who's lives are for ever changed because of events this week and I said prayers for them. But, knowing I would see my two girls in just a few hours really righted the ship.

spot-Have a great time at the rodeo!

Luc-Now how am I to sleep with a menu like that dancing in my head?

MDC Me-They? Who is this Me-They that you speak of? Long live MAYO!! Viva la Mayo! Also, I'd like to add Irishter and Rev Jr to your ABP.

Romeena-Sorry about that "Viva" crack.

God Bless,

October 03, 2006 - Msg 46057:

Ya know, that "mad as a hatter" description was not really quite what I was looking for. I didn't mean, so much, that I have lost my mind. What I was trying to say is that I was upset, not on the verge of insanity. Sane an mad not mad an insane. Really, I'm not crazy. Honest.

Millie-Hey there! I stopped by the Frappr room about 9:00 I saw PH in there but for some reason the screen would not completely load. I still have dial-up. I don't know if that is the reason or not.


October 03, 2006 - Msg 46058:
Hello porch. I just got in from a trip to my daughter's college. She turned 18 today so we spent some time together and went out to eat. Of course "DAD" enjoyed that!

Possum....I thank God for the good report on Laci. Praise the Lord!

Spot...you be safe brother and have fun.

Me-They...I know what you are saying about people trying to make the Bible say certain things about our diet. I know of a Christian group that try to use the Bible as a reason to become a vegan. I don't agree with that but I have to agree with Boo & MDC. So many of our foods today have been poisoned with all kinds of toxins and chemicals. The foods that are fed to our animals have many steroids and antibiotics so that they will grow fast/big. It's just not natural. Then when we ingest this food/meat, it is then released into our bodies. And of course, our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. By no means am I saying that I don't ever eat anything bad for me. But I do try to eat overall pretty healthy. By the way.....I do like that good ole mayo every once in a while. haha

Well it's getting late. You all have a good nights rest. Prayers for you all!

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46059: Good morning porch. Hope everyone is up and moving on with the day. At work as usual and getting my morning started. How about breakfast:
country ham, homemade biscuits, apple butter, eggs, orange juice, milk, coffee. Church tonight, kids have youth group and them home to do my Mom duties. see you guys later. Prayers to all. Big Maude

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46060: Millie, PH, Boo: Ya'll will have to educate me some on the Frappr program. I signed up and went..but where do I find ya'll? I tried last night. Sorry I missed ya..


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46061: The subject of Mayo is getting as popular around here as VICKS.

REV, yes, it's getting impossible to avoid the toxic food completely unless you grew all your own food, milked your own cow, grew your own meat, etc...you would have to go back to living like the Ingalls on the prarie (which none of us has the time to do). I am trying to eat more healthy and leave the rest to the Lord. I try not to deliberately eat pork or shellfish, though.

Auh20, we have to keep our thankfullness for our blessings, don't we? Sometimes I think I should just stop watching the news. It can really get you down. I just watched a psychologist on ABC talking about the mental state of poeple like the one who killed the Amish girls. He says he beleives he planned to commit s#xual abuse on them before the cops showed up. Thank God he didn't get the time to do that. That is one thing to be thankful for.

Gotta go...


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46062: Lucy - I read your first entry and I wanted to tell you about a wonderful book called, Overcoming Dyslexia" by Sally Shaywitz, M.D.
My son also has dyslexia and I WISH I would have had this book a long time ago. Get it and read it and force your school to implement its practices. If Bryson has been evaluated and has an IEP, you can demand some special programming.

Talk to you all soon!


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46063: Vicks lives on!!

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46064: Homemaker- Bryson has an IEP. He is in a special needs language arts class, OT, and speech in school. Thank you for the book recommendation. I will see if it's at my local library.
Sterling- What is Kai's condition.
Possum- Praise the Lord for Laci!
Have a Mayberry Day!

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46065: YES! Vicks rules (I knew I could count on you to keep the Vicks alive, HM)! Hey Homemaker, how come you never told me about that book on Dyslexia?! I'm going to get it TODAY. You should hear my son reading now, though. He is doing great. His biggest problem is with spelling and retaining math. What's the weather like way up there in your area. It is going to be 90 again here today and humid so it will feel even hotter. Can you believe it, in October! Ugh! I can't wait for some cool weather. You know, here I am about to build a house and all I can think about is the day when I can live somewhere in a cooler climate. What is an IEP?

By the way, Lucy, I think you are doing great with your son (thinking of your comments earlier about not being able to put him in private school). Like I said earlier, for some private school is not an option right now. You are obviously doing your very best and God sees that. He is faithful.

Well, it's time to stop procrastinating and get some work done.


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46066: To Millie Msg 46055, our chat session last night was unexpectedly brief. How did things turn out last night? Or would you rather discuss it in chat?

To Idelle Msg 46060, I was in Frappr from 8:30pm eastern time until 11:00pm eastern time. Millie arrived about 8:35pm but after a few minutes, she had to leave unexpectedly. Boo arrived shortly after Millie left. We waited for Millie's return by remaining logged in but without chatting. When I tried to send a message around 11:00pm, I got logged off and received a message that Frappr was down for maintenance. So I went to bed.
I can't explain it why you didn't see us logged in. I was signed in as Poor Horatio and Boo was signed in as a guest.

from Poor Horatio

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46067: Sorry guys(and gals), didn't mean to leave you hanging about Kai. Well, the doctor said that Kai's lungs were clear and she didn't have a fever, so I fixed her a lunch and brought her back to school(besides, when we were walking out of the doctors, she said, "Daddy, I'm ready to go to school now"). And she seemed to be pretty much back to her old self. Last night, she was up late coughing again, so I decided to just keep her home today and rest. She has her school pictures tomorrow and dance class later, so I figured it would be best if she just rest up today, and we'll see how she is tomorrow, and whether she'll go to either one. But she seems pretty good, just the cough.

Oh, I almost forgot, Kai was placed in the gifted and talented program at school. I am kind of mixed about those things - don't want her to get too big of a head - but I am proud of her.

-Sterling Holobyte

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46068: An IEP is an "Individual Education Plan" that a special needs student has once he has been tested by the local school system (this determines if he qualifies for special services in the Learning Disabilities department, Hearing Impaired, etc.) The plan basically says what special needs classes/accommodations they need to learn in the general school setting. Private schools may also have their students tested by the local school system and services can be provided by the local school at the private school setting. I go to two parochial schools for children with hearing impairments.

For some great information on dyslexia - "google" Learning Disabilites and go to the National Learning Disabilities Association website. They have some helpful tips for parents and educators.

Schools can only do so much but they can do more if they know the parents are really involved. As I have said before - "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." You must be your child's advocate in the public school setting. There are Christian teachers out there in the public school (I know, I am one and work with many) but I am also in rural Indiana and it is a little different than a big city or a suburb. But I am sure they have some too!

Also Lucy, IEP's can be changed at any time, not just once a year. If you want something new tried, tell them...give it a quarter or a grading period, if you don't like it -tell them you want it changed again. Find what works for your son - that's why it is called an IEP - I is for "individual."

Sorry for my soap box - this is something I know.

Hope that helps you to Boo! Vicks and Miracle Whip - a winning combo!!


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46069: The website is NCLD.org - that might be easier.


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46070: PH: thanks for explaining about Frappr. I didnt see yall. Maybe I am doing something different. Is there are certain room I am suppose to go in? Or just use the box on the right side of the screen? I was signed in as Idelle.

Sterling: What grade is Kai in? That is great about Gifted and Talented. I hope mine gets it.


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46071: Thanks Homemaker! I need to schedule a visit with Sean's teacher and then check with the Special Ed department in my district.

PH, Millie and I were on Frappr from about 9:15 until 10pm. We saw you come on for just a second and then you were gone. Not sure what was going on!

Sterling, sounds like Kai is a smart cookie. I know you are the kind of parent that won't put too much pressure on her and will watch her for signs of too much stress. Our schol doesn't have a gifted and talented program, kids work at their own speed. Some are just farther along than others. The school sent home a form today for those who wanted to join 4-H. Sean seems really enthused about it. Do any of you do 4-H with your kids or know anything about it?

Time for a break...


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46072: Ha! that's funny that I accidentally misspelled school in the same sentence with the gifted and talented program!


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46073:
Hey Folks

Boo-How in the world did you decipher what I posted last night? I had a hard time understanding it and I wrote it! I shouldn't post after 10:00 pm.

PH-I stopped by Frappr last night about 9pm and I saw that you were in there and I think it said 3 guests but a dialogue box never appeared for me to post. Actually, the page itself never fully loaded. I tried to stop back a bit later and none of the page would load. I'm not one who chat online but I do stop by every once in a while.

I got a great book from my girls yesterday for my birthday, "The Quiet Hero." I've wanted it for some time and I'm really enjoying it.

Take care all,

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46074:
Boo-That might have been me at Frappr, not sure.


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46075: Boo - boy do we do 4-H! We have tooo much in common. . .Casey took his goats and vet science last year. We limited projects to 2 so he could do a good job on them. It is a pretty good organization - if he is interested, I say go for it!

Glad I could help with your information about special education. It varies from state to state but there are federal guidelines that all must follow. The National Center for Learning Disabilities has a lot of info - you just have to surf to find what is good for you use.

Happy belated birthday Auh2o!


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46076: Boo, 4H is pretty popular here too.


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46077: Cancel the APB on me, I'm here, been in DC all week & just now getting caught back up enough to play around on the computer. Prayers for everyone & will try to get back later.

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46078: To Idelle Msg 46070, if you visit www.frappr.com, then you won't see us because that's the generic chat room for anyone who has no specific chat room to go to. The Frappr chat room for us Front Porch folks is at www.frappr.com/porchsters.

To auh2o Msg 46073, too bad you had technical difficulties getting into Frappr last night. I never saw you pop in.

Happy Birthday to Millie. I know it's this week but I forgot which day.

Welcome back Mavis.

from Poor Horatio

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46079:
MeThey- Just one more thing on the foods, even tho the NT lifted those levitical restrictions, would you still eat at McD's for thirty days in a row?? haha
With Amish in the news, Boo's mention of milking cows etc ya dont have to go back to Little House really,because the Amish still do it today! My prayers continue for that whole community!
Well, I think I WILL call COLT and see if all is OK.
We gotta get our mayor's daughter to sing Jimmy Crack Corn, and get that drum and bugle corp playin!
Auh20- me they is one of the porchsters, or are ya kiddin with me?
HM- can you still post from school?
MAVIS!!! wonderful to see you, hope all is well!

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46080: Welcome home, Mavis. We missed you....now if we can get ASA to come back things will feel more like normal.

Did anyone see Oprah today about the teens who tried to kill themselves and survived? It was so touching to hear them talk about how much pain they were in but how now they have a joy for life because they are putting God first and trying to help others. Very inspiring. One was a young woman who lay down on the tracks of a frieght train when she was a teen. Eight freight cars ran over her and she survived. She said she felt something pushing her down and she believed it was God doing it to keep the trains from killing her. She lost both of her legs, but survived.

Well, better go...got some homework to do for bible study tomorrow!


October 04, 2006 - Msg 46081:
Hello porch family. Pray you all are doing good.

Sterling....glad that Kai is doing better.

Happy Birthday to Auh2o.

I guess Spot is on the road. Prayers for safe travels.

Well, I'm heading to bed. You all take care and prayers for you all.

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46082:
MDC-Ya, I was just joking. M-T gave my beloved mayo a shot so I thought I'd goof around a bit. My humor doesn't translate well through cyberspace, it must be the font.

Thank you Rev & homemaker.

Mavis-Great to see ya.

Asa, colt, Rev Jr., Irishter, Mary Wiggins, and Dixie if we're gonna get the band back together everyone has to be here. I know there are others (not the creeps from "Lost") but I'm sleepy.

Night y'all,

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46083: Night Porch!

October 04, 2006 - Msg 46084: Goodnight Porch!

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46085: MDC-yes I can still post from school...it was blocked a couple of years ago but the computer tech. knew me pretty well and unblocked it.

A cloudy day here - it hit 85 here yesterday, today it is supposed to be 65 with 70's for the weekend.

Take care...


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46086: Wow, 85 yesterday, Homemaker? That's pretty warm for this time of year. Sounds like your weekend will be nice. We are expecting rain, in the 80's. It feels pretty tropical out there right now.

I had trouble crawling out of bed this morning...so sleepy! I can't wait for the time change at the end of the month.

I have bible study this morning but I will be back later today. Hope you all have a good day.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46087: GOod morning
PH: Thanks for the info..that sure does explain A LOT..haha!

We had some warm days too. Suppose to get cooler for the weekend. I'm ready for it. Tired of going from shorts to long sleeves, etc every other day.

Boo: I read the info on yesterdays Oprah show. Glad it was a good one. I used to watch that a lot, dont anymore. Not so crazy about her.

good day to all..

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46088: Good morning, all. It's another beautiful but hot day here in north Texas. Hit the upper 90s yesterday, expected to do the same today. Sure do wish it would cool down a bit. My landscaper friend and his crew were here all day, returning today to finish up. I wanted to get some pansies in the ground while they're here, but it's too hot to plant them. They'd bolt for sure, and I'd have plants three feet long with one little bloom out on the end! Better wait a couple more weeks. I should be able to plant them myself by then.

Well, better go feed the Plum, take my insulin and get some clothes on before the guys get here. You all have a great day, okay? Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46089: Good morning everyone. I’m back to the grind, but it is a beautiful day here. I took off work the last three days to get some projects done at home and was horribly unsuccessful. I ended up going shopping with the Mrs., playing outside with Chad, and puttering around the yard. Oh, well, there’s always next time.

POSSUM: Praise the Lord about Laci!

STERLING: That Kai must be a smart cookie. I wonder who she takes after? (ha) I hope that she feels all better.

IDELLE: Thanks for backing me up on the mayo. I think we’re fighting an uphill battle with this crowd. A thick, gooey, artery-clogging hill.

BOO, REV and MDC: About the food thing, here’s what I have to say: nyah, nyah! No, actually, I completely agree with you. I didn’t mean to imply that we shouldn’t try to eat healthy, and that means different things to different people. And our food today does seem like a risky science experiment sometimes. I was commenting more on the growing Christian movement that holds up the Old Testament diet as “the” Godly one. I myself try to buy organic, limit processed foods, and try to make good choices at restaurants.

It is so hard sometimes to know what you should eat, though. For instance, my wife did a lot of research on milk when we had our first daughter. For the first year she got it from her mom. For the next two years she drank only soy milk. Then, when we had our son, all these studies showing the possible effects of too much soy on boys’ hormones and development started popping up. So we switched to organic (cows’) milk. Then, it was reported that the brand of organic milk we were using didn’t use hormones but did pen the cows up and did not let them graze. They were fed corn, which meant that they had to be given antibiotics. So we switched brands. It’s just not easy.

Another consideration, too, is the mistaken belief that our food today is filled with toxins but used to be all natural and pollution-free. The last part of that statement is just not true. Understanding of the food chain, pollution, diseases and sanitation have always made our food supply “iffy.” Whole communities experienced outbreaks of such things as anthrax poisoning, botulism and Lord knows what else. Even through the 1930s until food became heavily regulated, thousands and thousands of Americans, in cities as well as rural communities, died every year of food-borne illnesses. Heck, people even ate poisons for their perceived benefit; women in the 19th century took small amounts of arsenic to thin and whiten their faces. The difference is that now half the bad stuff that makes it into food is stuff that is put there deliberately like pesticides and metals.

On a similar note, there is considerable evidence that the relatively sanitary society we live in may be harming us; studies show that allergies and asthma are on a steep increase. Kids who grow up on farms have a far lower incidence of them, and kids who grow up with no pets have the highest incidence. Seems we need a few germs in our lives to condition our bodies.

MDC: You couln’t pay me to eat at McDonald’s! Burger King or Wendy’s, okay, but not the Golden Arches. Did you ever notice that all McD’s food has a distinctive taste? Their burgers don’t taste like burgers, but McDonald’s food.

LUCY: I wasn’t passing judgment on public school in total. I fully understand all the considerations. I have many friends whose kids are doing just fine academically and spiritually while in public school.

Where’s TOM been lately? I hope he’s not off-line again.

Well, I’ve shot off my mouth quite enough for today. Better get to work. By the way, the name’s…


Oh, yeah, I hear that AUH2O is mad as a hatter. That’s crazy to you and me.

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46090: In case it wasn't clear in my post, when I said, "...she got it from her mom" I meant Nora got her milk from my Mrs.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46091: Happy Birthday, AUH2O!

You'd feel younger if you'd lay off the mayo.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46092: Bryson and I are leaving soon for Kentucky. I will check in later!
Blessings to you and yours,

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46093:
Me-They What a horrible thing to say about hatters! Thanks for the birthday wishes. As for the mayo, I will admit that it doesn't really have to many health positive aspects.

Lucy-Hope all goes well on your trip.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46094: Good Afternoon Porch! It has been a long time since I have been able to be here or even type a few words. I have had alot of things going on including moving, new job, my 2 year old son having double hernia surgery and too many more to list and I wouldn't want to bore you with that. Just wanted to say it is good to be back home with good folks such as yourselves. It has been unusually warm here too; up in the upper 80's almost 90 but more Fall like weather will be here this weekend. Looking forward to it; Fall is one of my favorite times of the year. Well I have to get back to work but I do covet your prayers and I know the porch has some strong prayer warriors -- Please pray for me as it seems I am in spiritual warfare and battling depression and guilt -- I want to pray but it seems sometimes the words just won't come.

Thank You for your Prayers!

I appreciate it and Good Night!

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46095: Good to hear from you HILLBILLY. Of course you have my prayers. As far as your own go, just remember that God doesn't require any special words, or any at all. Often, it's just best that we listen for Him instead of talk at Him. Don't be a stranger!

I've been reading up on the horrible killings that took place on Monday. The more I read, the more I respect that Amish community. The families of the victims have been ministering to the family of the gunman since the day it took place, and they are asking that the public not turn grief into anger or hate. Talk about setting a Christian example for the world to see. If any good comes from this terrible event, it may be that the nation gets to see God's grace, love, mercy, and peace through these people.

Safe trip, LUCY. Hey, AUH2O, I'll lay off the mayo, so to speak.

Ya'll have a great evening.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46096:
Hillbilly-Great to see you and welcome home. Sometimes, I find I do my best praying when I don't say a word and just open myself up to the Lord. Prayers for ya.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46097: Hey, porch. Before I forget, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, au2o. Hillbilly, good to see you. I know how that feels, wanting to pray and having a "block'....the porch often helps me with that. The last couple of days, in particular, I am troubled. One of the kids is having some pretty bad problems at school, and told the counselor it's about me. Also, had baaaaaad night at work ......a 40 year old dishwasher tried to molest a 14 year old hostess. Her dad wants to kill the guy, literally, and the cops came and it was such a mess. I'm just sick about it. Yesterday I was supposed to get chemo, but had a problem with my port....was at the hospital today from 9 to 4, then went for chemo, now I just feel yucky. I think I need some down time, but I know it's not gonna be possible. If I can stay sane this week, I AM wonderwoman.
Supper's on me.....salisbury steak, gravy and rice, baby peas with pearl onions (they twang my buds) and potato rolls...tea with lemon. Y'all eat up!

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46098: Millie: so sorry about your rough evening. Your child is probably concerned and worried about you. At least he/she is talking to the counselor about whats bothering him/her. Not to be ugly or offensive, but why do you have a 14 year old working there? Shouldnt she be 16.. or can you work at that age with a permit still?
Hope you get to feeling better soon..
Oh..What part of Richmond is your restaurant? or would you rather not say on the porch?


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46099: Evenin' Y'all! Millie,that supper sounds great-thanks! Sounds like you had a rough couple of days for sure.Prayers continue for you.
Happy Birthday to auh20!

Good to see SM Hillbilly back on the Porch-prayers for you friend. The way I see it,you don't have to get all fancy & proper when you want to pray.Just talk to God as natural as you like-He'll listen.
Ok,now I'm just gonna say it- I Love Mayo! Sometimes I'll just put it on bread with nothing else-yum! Am I grossing you out Me-They? Ha! Well,we might not agree on mayo,but since you're a big JT fan,you're A-OK in my book! By the way,he (James Taylor for anybody wondering who I'm discussing) has a new Christmas CD coming out next week."Go Tell It On The Mountain" is on it-I love that song and I've heard his version:it's wonderful!
I also agree with your views on the Amish,M-T. What an example they are showing us all.
Well,guess that's about it for now.Hope Asa is improving.I'm worried about him-and I miss him on the Porch.
Love to all!
possum under a rock

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46100: Idelle, no problem, I've even posted our website here. It's in the west end. She does have a work permit, her parents are my neighbors and friends, they asked me to give her a job.
BTW, forgot to say to possum that I'm so glad Laci's doing well.

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46101:
Hello porch. How's everyone doing?

Welcome back Hillbilly. Prayers for you.

Millie...thanks for that wonderful supper. Goooood!

M-T...I think we are all pretty much on the same line with the food subject.

Folks, I'm going to say something and please don't take me wrong. I truly admire the forgiving Spirut the Amish are showing. We all can use more of that. But I was doing some concerts in the Ohio area a few years back and had the opportunity to sit down with an elder Amish man and talk with him about his (amish) faith. We talked probably for about an hour. He allowed me to ask questions and it was very interesting. But the one thing that I had a problem with in the Amish faith is the Bible says we are to go forth and share our faith. This older fellow pretty much told me that they have no desire to reach the "outside" community. I asked a ton of questions but this sebject is the one that really stood out to me. Please don't take what I'm saying to believe that I think they are "bad" people because I certainly DON'T. I believe they are kind people and from what this man told me I have no doubt that they believe in the salvation of Jesus Christ just like most of us do. But as a traveling minister the "keeping the faith undercover message" kinda bothers me. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Gotta run for now...You all be blessed!

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46102: That's "spirit" not "spirut".

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46103: Boo, Mavis, Maude, PH, any of you around tonight?

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46104: Good evening to everyone. another busy day on my end of the porch. Gotta slow down and take it easy. Doing housework and laundy. Football game tomorrow night. Actually, I am Miracle Whip gal myself. My kids prefer Mayo, but not me. Guess cause my Mom always had Miracle Whip and no mayo.
Millie, thanks for supper and you are Wonderwoman and wonderful woman as well. You are in my prayers. Glad to see you back Mavis. you guys take care. Big Maude

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46105: Good to see you, Big Maude...thanks for the prayers.

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46106: Do ya think maybe Barney's uncle was involved with Watergate? I just heard him say his uncle had a connection with the FBI..."plumbing".....things that make you go hmmmm.....

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46107: Okay....I'm paralyzed with fear....I'm packing a bag, I feel like it's all about to spill over and the strong , calm , cool me is going to disolve into a puddle of mush. I am so afraid. What's happening to me? I just don't know how to keep it up. I'm just a big sham.

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46108: I'm sorry porch. How inappropriate. Forgive me.
ps.....Lynn,are you here tonite?

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46109:
Rev- I had posted that we have a significant Amish population around here and, because of that, they have raised my curiosity since I was a kid. From everything I've read or witnessed, I agree with your analysis of the Amish. There are some differences with regard to salvation also. However, that being said, I do, for lack of a better word, respect their commitment.

Millie & possum-Thanks!

Millie-Wow, what you must be going through. I'll be praying for you, I always am.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46110:

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46111: Hey, Millie. It's been a busy day and I finally got a chance to sit down at the computer. I am still praying for you and have been today and yesterday. Is there anyway you can get some rest, Beloved of God? I know you must need it!

Auh2o, you really made a great point on the prayer issue. Sometimes just being with God and listening is the most amazing way to pray...to just allow him to comfort and speak to us our hearts.

Me-They, I have been thinking that the example of love that the Amish are showing may just be what some unbelievers might need to see. It might make them re-think Christianity. God bless them. I heard that one of the girl's was taken off life-support today and taken home to die with her family. Does anyone know anything about it?

REV, that's interesting about the Amish. I have wondered how they reconcile the exclusiveness in light of God's command to go forth. Maybe their idea of evangelization is to bring up many godly offspring that will love and serve the lord. I really don't understand, though, why they can't live as they do and still reach out to the world. Maybe different people need different things. For instance, I have talked before about a cousin of mine who is something like Amish (forgot what they call it) and it is a really exclusive group of folks who have withdrawn from the world, for the most part. They lead very simple lives and homeschool their kids. The church and community are very tight-knit. I thought they were all wrong until I found out that they were mostly people who had been drug addicts, heroin addicts and such, who had come to Christ and needed to be in an atmosphere of extreme accountability. My cousin had not been able to stay off the drugs and was physically abusive to his wife until he joined this community 20 years ago. He is not even the same guy now. Clean and sober ever since...a real good guy, even a fireman now. My point it that maybe same folks need that kind of lifestyle? Just a thought.

Where is ASA?? Hope is is OK. I thought about him today when I was at the bookstore buying a copy of James Herriot's "Creatures Great and Small"..I know Asa likes his books. Hurry back ASA.

Did any of you watch Pale Rider tonight on AMC? I just can't get enough of that Clint Eastwood. What a man.


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46112: Millie, we were posting at the same time. Oh, what can we do? Are you still there? Praying hard....


October 05, 2006 - Msg 46113: Boo, I'm over at frappr!

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46114: Boo, the best rest I got was an hour nap at the hosptal today......thanks for your concern. Maybe thaat's why I feel so crazy.

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46115: To Millie Msg 46103, I just saw your message. It's 10:35pm eastern now. I will monitor here and Frappr for about one hour.

from Poor Horatio

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46116: PH, I'm over there now.

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46117:
Prayers for Millie and all.
Just a quick visit tonight, sorry. But i watched the ep last night with Andy tellin Opie about Beauty and the beast:
Andy: And the prince throwed his arms around her and kissed her right on the face, and they lived happily ever after laughin and gigglin til the end of their days!
I just love that line!
Let's all kiss our loved ones right on the face tonight! (:
Take care,
ole MDC

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46118:
Millie...we are here praying for you. Know that you have friends here that care.

Some very good comments on the Amish. And yes...you have to respect their commitment.

Nope Boo...didn't see Pale Rider this time around. Now I'm gonna have to have a talk with Mr.Boo about those comments concerning Mr. Eastwood. lol

Anybody heard from Spot, if he made it there safe?

Got some apple pie here if anybody wants a snack. Can make some coffee or hot tea also if you would like some.

Everyone sleep good tonight knowing that our Lord is watching over us! I love HIM so much!

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46119: Dear friends! Heavy stuff on the porch tonight. Millie, our prayers are with you, sweet girl. You are carrying far too heavy a load. You simply must get away and rest for a while. Your body is under heavy stress with the chemo, and you need rest so that the necessary repairs can be made. Your spirit is under fire as well, and again, you need rest.

SM Hillbilly, on the subject of prayer, when it doesn't feel like you're "connecting", I know that feeling very well. What finally came through to me was the scripture abour "praying without ceasing." Now just how on earth does one go about the activities of life, and still "pray without ceasing"? Obviously, one cannot spend 24 hours a day on their knees in prayer. That led me to the realization that prayer can (and perhaps, must) be an attitude of the mind and heart. Certainly, spoken prayer is important, and God expects it. But to "pray without ceasing" means, to me, to keep the lines open, the subconscious mind in touch, and as Me-They said, we just listen for His voice. It's when we are in that quiet attitude of mind that the Holy Spirit which dwells within us speaks to God for us, more clearly than we could ever articulate for ourselves.

On the subject of the Amish, and other separatist communities, I too have often wondered how they can fulfill the Great Commission, when they live in such isolation. I admire their dedication and commitment, but have wondered about their lack of evangelistic activity. These days, though, in the light of the things that are happening in this wounded old world, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe they're right. At least, it seemed until this week that their kids were sheltered and safe, and not affected by the evil that stalks the land. Now, even that has been broken. I just don't know.....

Well, I'm a pooped pup, nursing a bit of a cold and am going to bed early. (whiiiine) I feel like a total ninny even making such a statement, in view of what Millie and others are enduring right now. Forgive me, please. I am praying that things improve for everyone on the porch who is having difficulties. As my good friend used to say, well, just praise the Lord anyway! Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena

October 05, 2006 - Msg 46120: Hope you feel better, Ro. PH and I had a good chat with Millie on Frappr tonight, she seems to be doing a bit better. We got to pray together and read the 23rd Psalm together. She is just precious and I know how concerned we are all about her. Rest assured that God knows how we feel and he will answer our heart-felt prayers....keep praying.

REV! A man who openly expresses his love for God the way you do is better than Clint Eastwood in a toolbelt, Baby! You rock.


PS-wish I could kiss you all "right on the face"!

October 06, 2006 - Msg 46121: Thanks, Boo, again. Really. You too Poor Horatio.

October 06, 2006 - Msg 46122: Boo...in reference to your post #46111, you may be thinking of the Mennonites.


October 06, 2006 - Msg 46123: Good Friday morning porchesters. Hope everyone is doing okay this morning. Chilly and cloudy this morning but supposed to have clearing this afternoon with temps in the upper 40's tonight.
sorry I missed the Frappr chat. I checked on around 8:30 but no one was there and seems like everytime I go to Sarahs no one is there either. Guess I must be too early or to late. (the story of my life). Breakfast will be: scrambled eggs, toast with applebutter, bacon. coffee, juice or tea. Prayers to all today. at work for a while this morning. My partner will be back on Monday and I sure will be happy to see him. I will be at work for a while this morning and then off to do errands and then home to do chores. Have a great day and "act like somebody". Big Maude

October 06, 2006 - Msg 46124: Good morning everyone. It's cold and rainy here, but that's okay.

I see you had a difficult time last evening, MILLIE. I hope that things are better for you today. Aren't these people wonderful? You are in my prayers.

REV: I also have a number of problems with how the Amish live out the faith. I don't understand how they justify not evangelizing. But, I'm still trying to get that log out of my eye.

HORATIO: I wish I could join y'all at Frapper. I'm not much into chatting (but I like regular conversation), but I feel like I'm missing out on some good visiting.

Thanks for breakfast, MAUDE. I'm powerful hungry this morning.

BOO: Is it laundry day?

Where's TOM and COLT, or did I miss something?

Okay, you all can go back to whatever it is you were doing. What were you doing?


October 06, 2006 - Msg 46125: Thanks for the heads-up on the JT Christmas album, POSSUM. That oughta be a-goodin'. Can you believe that Christmas is less than three months from now? Ho-ho-ho.

Speaking of mayo v. MIracle Whip, remember sandwich spread? My grandmother always had that stuff around and made sandwiches with it. I'm not sure what was in it, and couldn't venture a guess.


October 06, 2006 - Msg 46126: Good morning, everyone! Yep, Me-They, I remember sandwich spread. One of my aunts always had it in her fridge, and a sandwich at her house always tasted really special. It was especially good on turkey sandwiches, the day after Thanksgiving. As for the mayo/MW debate, I've stated my position before (in case anyone cares), which is that I'll eat mayo if I must, but given a choice, it's MW all the way! I don't find mayo to be gross, just sort of, well, blah. Still, I'll eat it. Now here's one that always amazed me. My husband's family, in Michigan, puts butter - yep, butter - a sandwich. Imagine a roast beef sandwich made on bread spread with butter?? Somehow, that just doesn't do it for me. Now, I have buttered burger buns (say that three times real fast) and toasted them on the grill - that's fine. But cold butter spread on plain bread for a sandwich? Yuck.

Millie, I hope today is a better one for you, honey. Just throw your loop around God's promises and hang on!

Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena

October 06, 2006 - Msg 46127: My stars! That's ON a sandwich up there. --Romeena

October 06, 2006 - Msg 46128: Ro: We LOVE butter here. Especially "real" butter. I like to put butter on sandwiches. A country ham sandwich with butter is great!


October 06, 2006 - Msg 46129: ROMEENA and IDELLE: The same grandmother always used butter on ham sandwiches and on anything else that sandwich spread didn't go with. Basically, she used it in place of mayo. She used tio watch me after morning kindergarden and I remember that lunch was always a sandwich, soup, and half a grapefruit or a banana. It was extra special if she had alphabet soup.


October 06, 2006 - Msg 46130: Thanks for all the well-wishes for Kai everyone. Oh, btw Idelle, Kai is in Kindergarten.

Millie, gosh, I hope you feel more at ease today. I don't know if this will mean anything, but everyone feels out of control at some point. Just know that we are all praying for you.

-Sterling Holobyte