October 18, 2007 - Msg 57123: What happened? I haven't watched the news yet.


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57124: Good morning everyone.

I certainly hope that MERRI and her family are okay considering the devastation I saw on the news reports. I will be praying...

TOM: A Halloween party sounds great to me.

AUH2O: We do have some very brave heroes defending us. The least we can do is pray for them, and take their situation seriously. It is sad when more people know about some Hollywood trivial triviality then about the daily fight to keep them free. Sad indeed.

Some wonderful discussions going on the porch the last few days, in my opinion. Better to talk about something meaningful than Britney Spears latest exploits, huh? About what you said, ROMEENA, concerning agreeing more than not, one of my friends in my men's accountability group said one time that our disagreements were based on inches, rarely feet, but never miles. I think that aplies here, too. We're usually on the same page, it's juts a matter of degrees. (Talk about mixed metaphors.)

By the way, I'd charge that lady back the $45. But I'm a socialist ;).

Well, I've got meetings most of the day today so I'm not sure when I'll get the chance to next check in. I do hope that MERRI pops in with an all clear, though. You wonderful people have a great day.


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57125: BOO: I'm running low on shorts, by the way...


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57126:
Morning porch family.....Leaving out in a few minutes. Prayers for everyone!

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57127: Prayers for YOU, Rev.

Ok, M-T, I wasn't going to do laundry today, but I guess I could do one load.

I was thinking about you this morning, M-T, while listening to RC Sproul on the radio. He was talking about persecution to those who really give the whole gospel and don't try to water it down to avoid being persecuted (fear of men). He talked about how Jesus said that if they hate me, they will hate you. RC said some pretty interesting things and brought up some questions about why we have it so easy in this country. He thinks we have become "masters of avoidance". Made me think. I don't know that I have any enemies and maybe I should. I know there are those out there who would hate me if they knew me, but not for my faith, ha! I'm not talking about trying to cram the gospel down people's throats or anything but I am wondering why, if the bible says that the gospel would be an offense to many, am I not hated by more people....probably because I am not sharing it enough.. hmmm

Check in soon, Merri...


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57128: I think to be on the safe sizd of this party we make at a dry one.


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57129: Good grief - Merri, I had left the porch when you posted the news about the tornadoes. I'll be very happy and relieved when we hear from you.

Rev, God's blessings upon you as you travel, friend. If I had a mashed penny I'd give it to you. Be careful. That's a big old rig you drive, but I'm sure you have the skill to handle it.

Boo, I hear what you're saying. Like the old question that used to surface at every youth camp - "If you were put on trial today for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?" I think, though - certainly in your case - there is plenty of evidence. Because of our culture, you're not going to get an arrow in your back or be beaten, or even put on trial, but trust me, there are people in this world who do not like you or me or what we believe. It's just that here in this country, people are civilized enough to more or less live and let live. We try to share the gospel politely and gently, and unbelievers are usually equally polite in refusing it. In another culture, though, such sharing could cost your life. Being actually "hated" in this country for sharing probably won't happen, thank God. Avoided, yes, and I'll bet you can think of instances where that has happened. So don't go doubting yourself - your light does shine.

Blessings, everyone --Romeena

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57130: Right on, Tom. That's the only way to go - we'll get a case of Huckleberry Smash or Nectarine Crush from Wally. --Romeena

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57131: Sounds good,Tom. After all,the town of Mayberry was in a dry county.Just ask Otis,right?
Should we let homemaker bring her meatballs to the party this year?!

Sure hope Merri (no pun intended here) weathered the storms ok. Perhaps she'll check in later today.

Boo,anything new on Layla? Been praying for that little one. New neighbor,I am relieved that your child has a manageable condition. Prayers that she gets back to her old self soon.

Love and best wishes to Asa and family.Thanks for updating us,NN.

Well,I'm doing laundry this morning,so I'd better head back to the laundry room.And yes,Me-They,I'll wash your shorts if Boo's unable to.Reminds me of the first runner up in a beauty pageant: "If for some reason Miss Laundry Lady cannot fulfill her duties and obligations,the first runner up shall as$ume her duties." Hee hee

Y'all have a good day.Spot,I'm praying y'all get a ton of rain from this weather system coming through.We need rain too over here in SC.Bring it on!

possum under a rock

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57132: I live in the Mo Ozarks - about 30 or so miles east of Merri - and we had just some really strong winds and rain on my side of town. Hope things didn't get any closer to Merri than what she mentioned last night.

Prayers for all the porchsters and their families and definitely prayers for rain in the southeast.


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57133: just a quick good morning from pappa bear. so good to see so mant friends again. still don't have a computer but occassionaly i hijack one. ha. been praying for you all. andy comes on 7 times a day here in lincoln il. shall we gather at the old remshaw place again for halloween? then off to myers lake where i hear old rafe is having refreshments. mdc- hope you got the train book, ok. hang in there and i think i'll go down to wallys for a pop or soda for you raliegh folks. ha. pappa bear

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57134: Good to see you, pappa bear. I do believe I'll head over to Wally's with ya and jaw a little over a bottle of pop.


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57135: A big howdy to you all!

Just skimming thru, and i want to add based on a comment above, what i think makes the porch work so well and keeps the 'regulars' and new comers coming back, is first the obvious--our love for TAGS, but even deeper than that is a common denominator in here--the belief in and love for Christ that is prevelant. And TAGS is based on Christianity. I glance upon some of your stories, and i just think to myself, 'how great these folks are! and how fun it would be to have them all as my next door neighbors.' For me, i watch TAGS and truly wish Mayberry was a reality. Actually, I found this link which reminds me of Mayberry (you actually have to APPLY to live here), but check this out:


What do you think, you all want to all go? :)

ROMEEEEEENA... another message awaits you! (do i need to tell you each time i email so you can rescue me from your spam folder?) :)


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57136: Possum, Layla is doing better. I just received a call from Jill and she told me that they will probably discharge Layla from the hospital tomorrow. Jill is talking more sense than she ever has and says she is ready to get out on her own...can't quite believe it yet but I am praying...if taking your baby away doesn't shake you out of denial, I can't think of what would. Of course, it remains to be seen. By the way, feel free to take over the title of Laundry Lady if you wish.

Hey Pappa Bear. Welcome home!

Thanks for those encouraging words, Romeena. You're a peach.

Where's Me-They? I'm in the mood for another moulage.

Nice thought, Daph. It sure would be great to have all these folks as neighbors, wouldn't it?


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57137: Argh. It didn't make it through, Daphne. I just emptied my spam folder, just before coming to the porch, but don't recall seeing your address. I hand-entered your address into the trusted senders folder this time, so shouldn't be a problem. It's supposed to accept anything that's in my address book, but doesn't always do it. There's also a separate trusted senders folder where I can put addresses that are not in the book. Even though yours is in my address book, I've now put it in that folder as well. For some reason, I had this same problem with my SS teacher's emails, and those of another friend. Once I entered them in the separate folder, they come on through now. So, bottom line - would you mind re-sending the message you just sent? I'm sure I'll get it now.

Regarding the common denominator on the porch - I agree, the majority of us are Christian, but I know that some are not. I also know that Jesus loves them as much as He loves me, and therefore, so do I. I think we all feel that way. I think most real Christians in America honor our Jewish brothers and sisters, and love them as God's chosen people. One can hardly call one's self Christian and NOT love the Jews. Generally, we get along well, and it's because we both follow the same set of ethics, commonly referred to as the Judeo-Christian ethic, based in the Ten Commandments, and we believe in the same God, who identifies Himself as Love. If only the whole world would hold the love and respect and tolerance for others that the Jews have always exhibited!

It's also possible that we have an agnostic or two, or even an atheist, but if we do, they're such fine folks that no one has noticed. (heehee) I'm sure they won't mind if we pray for them, whoever they may be.

Anyhow, Daph, go ahead and send that message again. I'll get it this time. --Romeena

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57138: Hi my lovely friends...popping in before plucking daughter from school. You all must have said some good and powerful prayers for me last night because there was a tornado just blocks from my house that touched down in a field but didn't jump the road to my immediate neighborhood. The really scary, terrifying thing of it was that it had already dropped out of the sky and hit the grown before the sirens went off. I had just finished giving the girls dinner and sat down with a cup of coffee when the sirens sounded. Fortunately, I had time to scoop them and the dog up and put them in our bathtub. I already had pillows and heavy comforters there to cover them with. Sorry I'm just now getting to you all but I am a part-time Red Cross volunteer and spent the day with them helping out. I do case management for them, helping families get to services they need. Well, thanks again for caring and as always, thanks for the prayers.

BOO, so glad to hear that Layla is healing.

Love to all--Merri Weather

P.S. It's absolutely beautiful today--crystal blue skies and warm sunshine. God's promise that there will always be a better day.

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57139: Well, Merri Weather, of course you're a Red Cross volunteer. Why does that not surprise me? Girl, you are a bird in this world.

I sincerely hope not too much damage was done where that tornado touched down. At the same time, I can't help being grateful that it didn't land on you! Thanks for checking in. --Romeena

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57140: Nice response Romeena. I share your thoughts exactly. Try again on the email, i just resent it.

MY GOODNESS Merri... what a night!


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57141: Hello Porch Family:
Just checking in before I go to the Christian College Fair at the children's school tonight. Got to make sure everyone's in the places with sunshining faces!!
Thanks for the prayers for Neighbette and Asa's family. Asa sounded so tired last night. It's really hard when a loved one hurts and there is no relief.
Ro- we did some research on Raynaud's and found several different things. Some apply, some don't. But this is not the end of things. We intend to continue to search for some answers.
Gotta go. ~New Neighbor (prayers for all affected by the terrible storms last night.)

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57142:

Merri Weather-I dropped by again just to check on you, I've been popping in and out for a while now. Glad to hear you're fine. Enjoy the evening.


October 18, 2007 - Msg 57143: It certainly wasn't 'Merri' weather with those tornados and all...

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57144:
Pappa bear colt, good to see you friend. A snailmail is on the way to you.
Boo- all we get on the radio is Leonard Blush! ha
but whatyou say is true. I TRY my best to live Romans 12:2, tho i am human. It's one reason i dont really do halloween anymore.
Daph- you are so right, that's why I enjoy the Christmas ep. They only did one, but they sang Away in a Manger, one of my favs! That ep says it all in my humble opinion.
MW- so glad all are ok. Thanks for being a volunteer!
Ya all have a good evening.
Prayers for all.
BTW,I will be afk for a few days. I have a little outpatient procedure tomorrow. Heart cath.
Say a prayer for me.

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57145: AUH2O--SO sweet of you to check in on me--much appreciated. I about choked reading about YOU choking on your toast--maybe you should soak your toast in milk first! I'm sending a virtual hug your way you big softie! ( )

HEY to Papa Bear, Daphne, MDC (praying for ya), Mavis, Romeena (sure wish I could come by sometime for a cup of coffee and visit a spell), New Neighbor, AFD (Glad you didn't get any twisters), Spot, Belle, Rev, Poor Horatio, Possum, Tom (PLEASE send help for my house--it's just as messy today as yesterday!), M-T, BOO, Hazel, and anyone else I may have forgotten!

Well, the final word on the tornadoes is 14 touchdowns, 9 houses destroyed, a lumber mill, a dairy farm and countless barns and out-buildings. No fatalities here though I heard something about 2 deaths in Paris, Mo. That makes me very sad.

One more thing, I have to say that the Christmas episode that's a take on a Christmas Carol, is one of my very favorites. I always blubber like a baby and always get tingles and chills when Ellie and Andy sing "Away in a Manger" together!

Better run. Gotta get the rugrats into the bath. Have a good evening everyone! Merri W.

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57146: Ok been busy for a day..HEY all..daph,boo,ro,Tom,REV MY BROTHER,POSSUM,DR P.AUH20,HORATIO,LUCY,[gosh sorry about caps hit the wrong button],Asa,big maude,hazel,miller,ray,mdc,md,afd.............gosh and all...left overs this way please...My kids are over here tonight to spwn the night ...gosn Andy [and yes named after AG] will be 16 nov 30 and is 6ft1" and wears a size 12 and a half shoe...skinny like me though..Kelsey on the other hand [will be 9 in dec] is a pistol ball!...just glad they come over so often...well prayers to all...breakfast on Mrs Merri W. place of her choosing...I will hold the door for the ladys...SPOT

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57147: Merri - so glad you are OK!!

Boo - glad to hear about Layla.

Prayers going up for all ya'll.

October 18, 2007 - Msg 57148: Hey, Merri. I wish you could too - drop by for a visit, that is. I don't drink coffee, but I'd surely make some for you. I'm a tea drinker myself - iced, mostly, but I do keep coffee on hand. So glad you escaped the wrath of the tornado. Thank the Lord! --Romeena

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57149: Thanks Belle, and all of you for your prayers for Layla.

Merri, so glad you and your family are fine and glad you are doing what you can to help your community! Like Ro said, I wish you lived closer so we could sit down for coffee now and then...and that goes for all of you. I love that Christmas episode, too. A couple of years ago I found a DVD of Lassie christmas eps (Timmy and Lassie) and talk about filled with nostalgia! I love that DVD and so do the kids. I used to watch Timmy and Lassie religiously when I was a kid...on rerun, of course... hehe. It is rather sad to watch how things used to be...TV shows were full of good things, and moral teaching. Good for the kids. Much different than most of what's on today.

The weatherman just said we had a cool front come through and it will only be 90 degrees today! I am NOT kidding...that's exactly what he said. Some cool front, what he really means is that the wind has shifted a bit from Southeast to Northwest. The humidity is still 97%...we'll see...

Wow, SPOT, Andy has grown! Hope you had a great time with the kids.

Another busy day today. This homeschooling thing is not easy. I really don't want to keep this up forever. I know it's a good thing and I applaud those who do it for their children for years. I am hoping that we can get Sean to the point that he can go back to school for his own sake, he is a really social kid and longs to be with other kids. I try to keep him involved with his friends on weekends and he attends youth group twice a week. It's the best I can do right now because he has no interest in sports and the 4H club turned out to be a real flop, at least here in our town. I think I will search out another one.

Well, better get Erin up and going...


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57150: Good Morn'in Dears, I've been busy,just wanted to say Hey and you are all in my thoughts.
Take Care PEACE Dr P

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57151:
Morning Porch

Merri W-You have to "icksnay" on the "igbay oftiesay." I have sort of a reputation around here. Seriously, I'm glad you and your family are fine. Having read your last post before the storm hit then seeing the reports on the news...well, I thought things might not have come out so good for y'all.

MDC-Prayers are on the way buddy.

M-T Here's an op-ed I thought you might find interesting regarding the Armenian issue. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/10/pelosis_armenian_gambit.html

My mother's husband died yesterday, so if you folks don't mind saying a quick prayer for her I'd be thankful. My ma is a devout lady, a true believer. Him, well, I've posted a bit about him before.

Barney: Alright...move over. I'm drivin'.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57152: Prayers for your mom, Auh2o. This must be hard on her.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57153: Can I hang my head out the winder like a dog?

Good morning everyone. Prayers for your mom, AUH2O, your community, MERRI, and the other requests.

It's great to hear from you PAPABEAR. Like old times.

Thanks for the like AUH2O. I'll check it out later.

BOO: I'm busy this morning, but since you are missing a moulage, I've got a doozy I may unload later!

Was it BOO or POSSUM who over starched my shorts? A regular Frick and Frack, aren't you two!


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57154: Cool, bring on the moulage...I can't wait. Possum put the starch in your shorts.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57155: Yep, those shorts should be able to stand alone-ha!
Prayers for MDC today as he undergoes his heart cath.Also,for your mom,auh2o.

Boo,thanks for the update on Layla.I'll continue to send prayers up for her.

Merri,glad you & yours are ok! Scary stuff.

Pappa Bear,it's always a wonderful surprise when you pop in for a visit! We love you!

Y'all,yesterday my sister did something(interfering in my life) that I didn't take kindly to.I wanted to retaliate,but instead chose to take the high road,and stayed up praying til 2am.I was going to let God handle it,but the minute I woke up this morning,my phone rang. It was twisted sister,trying to explain her actions.At first I told her I didn't want to talk to her,that I was going to let God handle her and I hung up.Well,she called back.And I gave her what for.Told her exactly what I thought of her and her antics.I almost blew a gasket! Now,I'm not feeling very Christian-like.I just felt like she had some nerve infiltrating my home,my peace of mind,etc. I meant everything I said,it was the truth,but I hate that I did it.I am sorry that I got down on her level. I am so not like that girl in morals and values.Do y'all understand where I'm coming from? Sorry to vent,but I need to get this out of my system.Maybe Me-They has some more shorts I can starch to keep me focused on something else!

Well,hope everyone is off to a better start than I am.Y'all take care.
possum under a rock

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57156: Just because you're angry at your sister is no reason to take it out on my bottom, POSSUM ;). Sorry to hear about your troubles. Your sis really sounds like a piece of work. I'm not trying to be flip, but are there chemicals involved, or is she just crazy? Anyway, you have my prayers for peace. Don't be too hard on yourself; we all fall short, but if we ask we are forgiven.

Did I miss something? MDC is having a heart cath today? He has my prayers, of course. I bet they find out that his blood is red...and white and blue, too!

Okay, BOO, you wanted a moulage, well here comes one...

If I hear one more Christian leader declare that torture of accused terrorists is okay, I think my head will just pop off. Now, if any non-Christian were to declare this I'd be okay with the fact. But some of these so-called Christian leaders are under teh impression that self-preservation trumps Biblical mandates, and that is unacceptable. Two wrongs do not make a right. I defy any one of them to find one single solitary passage in the Bible that declares (or even can be interpreted to mean) it is okay to torture someone (whoever evil) if you think they may have information that can save lives. And if we are supposed to be living out lives using God's Word as our compass and guide, don't you think this issue, like every single solitary other, ought to be thought about in terms of Scripture, which has every answer for our lives?

Don't get me wrong; I believe we are justified in protecting ourselves, and the best defense is sometimes a good offense. But I can justify that through Scripture. You just cannot justify torturing a human being to save your skin. Period, end of declaration.

If we use unChristian methods in war, we are absolutely no better than our enemy. As Christians, we are called to die for our faith, not chuck it out the window if it gets in our way of success. You can't get to Heaven by following the enemy to H*ll. I could go on, but I'm sure I've said enough :).

There you go, BOO.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57157: That wasn't too political, was it ;).

Me-"the Scamp"-They

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57158: Uh, Me-They, I thought you said you were going to start a moulage. I seriously doubt there's going to be much moulage-ing over what you just said. I guess everyone knows by now that I'm a bit of a hawk, I don't believe in molly-coddling evil-doers, and my heart does not bleed when I hear about a truckload of insurgents being destroyed. Well, maybe a little, in that I wish such things weren't necessary, but the insurgents, by their own deeds, have caused it. However, the planned, thought-out, systematic torture of a human being, or an animal, or any other creature just isn't right.

Now, perhaps we should define "torture" here. If making somebody sleep on a slab, or the ground, (even rocky ground) or any other condition of discomfort is called torture, then I disagree. Our troops aren't exactly comfortable over there, sleeping on the ground, in 120 degree heat in full battle gear. If feeding someone food that isn't particularly tasty, or doesn't meet their dietary preferences, but does sustain life is considered torture, I disagree. Life is tough sometimes. However, if by "torture" we are referring to causing someone real physical pain, or injury, or if they're actually starving, then that's wrong, and I can't condone it. Prison, isolation, sensory deprivation, maybe a little piped-in propaganda - I can go with that. Pain, injury, starvation - no.

OK, that's my contribution to what I believe will be a non-moulage. --Romeena

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57159: I didn't really think it would be much of a moulage eiether, ROMEENA. I just had heard (yet another) justification for the ever-changing definition of "torture" and the old "whatever it takes" argument. It especially peeved me since I heard it mouthed by a Christian leader, whom I will not name. I have no problem with the uncomfortable treatment you described above and do not consider it torture, and I agree with your last senetence definition of what does consititute torture. I guess I'm just getting tired of hearing conservatives defend the administration no matter what happens because they don't want to give the "other side" the satisfaction of being correct sometimes. I'd much rather people would call 'em like they see 'em.



October 19, 2007 - Msg 57160: I agree with both of you on the torture thing, Ro and M-T. Wanna hear a funny...some proclaimed Muslim in our local jail has filed a lawsuit against the county because the jelly in his pb&j sammich contains pork products (gelatin used in making the jelly). The county says that the jelly is made from pectin. Anywho, the dude is supposedly wanting to stick to the Islamic law that says they can't eat pork products, although it's interesting that he's in jail because of drug possession (also against Islamic law). Our sheriff said it best though..."If they wanna eat what they wanna eat, they should stay out of jail." Guess the guy better be thankful he's not in Mayberry, he wouldn't even get the pb&j sammich! ; )

Prayers for possum, MDC, Sean, auh2o's mama, and all the rest of you porchsters.

Glad you came through the storms ok, Merri. Hope your feeling better, too.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57161: Hi all. Have been having a blah couple of days. Haven't been here so I'll catch up a bit.

I think we probably are in agreement regarding BC and children. I was having a bad day and I've had soooo many comments made to me by Christian people about the trouble children are, and why on earth I have 5 that I just reacted. I get so frustrated by folks in the church acting like "Well I've had my 1.5 children so that is it" Or by friends who want more children but their hubbies say "No, you've got to get back to work". Anyway, I don't think anyone here thinks those things.

Found out that my precious 8 yo was a victim of community theater politics. UGH!!! Thought I only had to deal with that in Little League. Why can't people just be nice?!?

Glad to hear that MERRI, is ok.

Have a great weekend.!


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57162: Well, Opiemom, shame on whoever did that to your child. There's just no excuse for that. Not only is it unfair to your child, just look at the example it set and the attitude it is shaping in the other kid. Sad.

As for the Muslim who was upset about the jelly in his sandwich, I have a cure for that. Make him another sandwich, without jelly. Problem solved. If he wants to eat a dry sandwich because of his mistaken belief about the jelly, then so be it. Some gelatin (jello) does contain beef or pork collagen, but to my knowledge, it's not used in fruit jellies - they do contain pectin. FYI, I checked "pectin" in the dictionary, and learned that it is derived from ripe fruit and vegetables, and is considered a carbohydrate. This is simply another example of the Muslim's tactic of making themselves as annoying as possible, so they can demonstrate to what degree we'll jump through hoops to try to placate them. Gosh, Me-They, maybe you got a moulage going anyway. Can a moulage be one-sided? (heehee)

Wooohooo! I have an appointment at 3pm on Sunday to meet my puppy! Just a meeting, and it will be brief, but at least I'll have seen her, and I won't be a total stranger when I do pick her up for good. I always think how hard it must be for puppies, to be taken from their moms and siblings, just whisked away into totally strange surroundings, with people they don't know, and then to be expected to just accept all that. Most manage it well, and one would hope that all new homes are happy ones, but the ASPCA tells a different story. Now there's an area I don't even want to enter!

Blessings! --Romeena

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57163: I think this may be a first- a moulage about peanut butter & jelly!Just think of what we've got if we put our most popular moulages together- Vicks,Miracle Whip,Mayo,pb& J...and feet! Yuck! What a concoction!

Chemicals,Me-They? If you only knew! That,coupled with the fact that she is emotionally challenged (a nice way of saying spazzed out in the head) makes for one twisted sister. I decided,however, not to take out my wrath on your boxers,but instead crawled back into bed for some much needed rest. Feeling somewhat better because I know that I DID try to not lash out at her,but when she kept ringing the phone I just couldn't help myself.Now she is circulating the story that I cursed her out,slinging the 'F' word left & right.I did NOT utter that word!That is SO not me. She hears what she wants to hear.People know me better than that.Still,it irks me to no end the way she meddles and talks about me.Will have to keep praying on this and not let her steal my joy.Thanks,Me-They.
Oh,MDC mentioned yesterday about the heart cath.(See MSG 57144 at the end of his post).

Think I'm gonna take a couple of Alka-Seltzer after checking over that list of moulages above! Y'all have a good afternoon.
possum again

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57164: After reading some of the earlier posts ( the mention of ugly words,even if they are just the first letter ), should not be mentioned on THE PORCH ,or maybe THE PORCH sees nothing wrong with these types of posts. I, for one however, have determined that this talk is not Mayberry ,and should not be mentioned on a site connected to Mayberry.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57165: Possum, it sounds like you and I need to get our sisters together for bowling. Two peas in a pod, I'm afraid.

Opimom, I know how people can make comments about children. When my husband and I got engaged, we decided that we wouldn't have kids (HA! Little did we know God had other plans!) But instead be foster parents. My mother-in-law flipped her ever-loving noodle and made the most unwelcome comments. And then when we had 2 girls of our own, all I heard was "Don't you want to try for a boy now?" OR "Doesn't your husband need to have a boy?" OR "Aren't you disappointed you didn't have a boy?" When in reality, we couldn't care two hoots what gender our babies were. We were just as over the moon about our beautiful girls as we would have been about boys. Also, Opiemom, that is just a real crock of bologna in regards to your sweet 8 year old. Boy oh boy, you must have the strength of steel-enforced concrete to prevent yourself from raising a stink. That would have woken the mama bear in me, I think.

As the the leader of the Free World, can't we come up with something more creative for "torture" like forced to be chained to a grocery cart with a screaming 2 year old and a spazzoid 6 year old at Wal Mart on a Saturday morning while trying to buy groceries for a family of 4? Or how about locked in a room that smells like month-old dirty socks while Yanni is being piped in on the loudest volume possible? Or going down to the local downtown bus station to scrub toilets with bare hands and personal tooth brushes? Yeah, I'm a real sick-o.

Hey AFD, thanks for the well-wishes. Actually, HEY TO EVERYONE!

Hope everyone's Friday is starting their weekend off right. For dinner tonight, how about honey-glazed ham steaks or chicken breasts (your choice) grilled asparagus, hash brown casserole, fresh tossed salad, hot rolls, iced tea or cider to drink and for dessert--ooooh, are you ready for this? Pumpkin cheesecake! Anybody got a drool cup?

Love to all!

Merri Weather

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57166: I wonder what FRANK and OLLIE would think about some of the earlier posts?


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57167: How did I miss that MDC is having a heart cath?! I guess I need to go back and read a little more carefully. Prayers for him.

Gosh Possum, I know how horrible that feels! You try to do what you think is the Christian thing but those emotions take over and you end up feeling so guilty. I will pray for your situation.

Hold on to your head, Me-They...does the bible actually teach that you can't torture your enemy or is that just YOUR interpretaion?...just kidding!! hehe Hard to imagine that someone (especially a Christian could justify torture for any reason).

AFD, that is a perfect example of how CRAZY religion can get. Thank God we have freedom in Christ.

Opiemom, I just found out yesterday that one of my best friends is pregnant with her 5th. She is 37 and loves to have babies. She and her husband pastor our church and they have 2 boys, ages 11 and 8, then 2 girls 5 and 2. I am worried about them because I am afraid of people's attitudes about her being pregnant again, even though it isn't anyone's business. They are good parents and can provide for the kids. I'm overjoyed about it because I love their kids. I think it's sad, though, that there are friends who will put them down for it and say things like, "another one!".

Better got work on dinner...


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57168: Thanks for sharing your opinion George, but I am getting uncomfortable with folks telling me what I can and can't say here. Folks here are decent and I don't worry about what they will say. Are you new to the porch or have you been here before and I missed you somehow?


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57169: who are Frank and Ollie?

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57170: Afternoon Porch Family:
Just wanted to stop by and see what moulage was in the making, and say IT"S RAINING HERE!! Yea! We ae getting some much needed rain that is a welcome delight.
Prayers for the Heart cath MDC. You've got a BIG heart, so it will be easy for the Dr.!
Hey there Boo- what's for dinner? Give me some ideas. At the end of a long week of work my brain stops thinking of meals and wants to do the restaurant thing. ugh.
Asking for prayers for #2 daughter. Got a call at 11:00 last night from her roommate at college. She was having severe migraines, nonstop vomiting and fainting. (The state where her college is was experiencing thunderstorms and tornatos-her migraines are brought on by the barometer dropping) They took her to the ER and IV's were given with meds for the migraine. she called this AM to say she was heading back to school and rest for the remainder of the day. It's hard to be 600 miles from your child and not be able to help. (is 19 a child?) ALWAYS MY CHILD... Pray for her migraines to stay away this time. Praise for a roommate and friend who knew to get her immediate help and the Dr. for their wisdom!!
Gonna go lay down, had a long night...~New Neighbor

Who are Frank and Ollie?

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57171: Frank was the originator of the porch (Sheriff Frank). When he had to give it up, we had no porch for a little while, then we Ollie gave us Trivial Trivialities for a time. Then Floyd rebuilt the porch (got a spider bite too, I'll bet) and we have the porch as we know it today. Read the note just below the "Archives" button - explanation there. As for George, I have no idea who he is. --Romeena

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57172: Who's Malloy? --Romeena

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57173: Barney: "Al Becker. Al Becker. No, I can't place him."
- Hazel

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57174: Speaking of families that have a lot of kids, we have a story that has been making the papers here in Idaho. If you want to see it, go to www dot KTVB dot com, and go to the story called "Family of 17 found living in tents". (I can't put a link on here or I'll make the porch fall down again)
- Hazel

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57175: I'm with Boo I don't care too much for changing they way things are being done on the porch, it's worked just fine so far, we have disagreements from time to time, but what family doesn't? We have always been able to work them out & seems to me, it makes us grow even closer to one another. So I for one don't see the need for all the mean-natured posting that has been going on lately. Can we all just get along like we always have?
We finally got some rain today, thank goodness, we need it!
Gotta go get some furry kids fed, back later

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57176: Right, Mavis. Life would be so boring if we didn't have different opinions about things, and we learn alot that way.

I can't believe I forgot who Frank and Ollie were!...I knew that at one point.


October 19, 2007 - Msg 57177: For the record, no one I know or are related to in any way possible left the aforementioned post! I don't know who George is and to be honest, I really don't have any idea what he is talking about. Ok, just had to get that out. Also, I thought the Porch picked up just fine again. MW

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57178: HEY GANG..BOO Andy is growing like a weed..Kelsey too...been busy with them..hey merri,possum,ro,Tom,Rev my brother,Lucy,hazel,auh20,dr.p.mavis my friend,new N,goober,gooberette,ray,miller and all...where is my buddy Asa?...CHUCK!..well i got to hit the ironing board got to go to work at 6am in the morning...head to kansas city for the international rodeo wed...5 days of it..well breakfast will be at the old waffle house on Boo..I will leave the tip..eat all ya want her and Bruce got money! !..prayers and love ..Rev look for that Fed-x truck...SPOT

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57179: Hey Opiemom!..im gone to bed...see yall at waffle house...gosh I miss Millie these late nights....SPOT

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57180: I hope MDC checks in soon and is none the worse for the wear after his heart cath!

AuH2O - prayers for your Mom.

possum donít you worry about getting mad at your sister -even Jesus got mad occasionally. Hang in there. You are cared for on this porch.

New Neighbor I know exactly how you feel about being worried about your daughter so far away, but truth is, the kids do take care of each other, which is heartwarming. Number 1 son had the flu last month and his roommate hunted down a med student in the middle of the night to check him out. So I know your daughter has good people around her. Iíll say a prayer for her (I take Maxalt for migraines -works wonderfully!) and Iíll say a special prayer for you to have your heart eased. Is your nest totally empty or partially empty with your daughter away at college?

Opiemom, there is nothing crueler than organization (read here theater) politics that hurt a child. I know you are mad and there is nothing you can do and thatís frustrating.

How are Mrs. Asa and Asa? Please let him know we are thinking about him.

Hey to Boo (and the children), Hazel, Merri, Romeena, Me-They, Spot, Big Maud, AFD, Tom, Rev (wherever you are), DeS (and your paint brushes), Dr. PÖand all who join us on the porch. I am so glad to have a civil place to turn to after a long hard week. When all is said and done, you are each decent, kind people who treat one another with grace, and no matter what gets posted now and then, thatís what really matters.

I think I may have found a place to live that will be available by Jan. Oh, how nice it will be not to commute four hours a day! Keep your fingers crossed it works out. I am home for the weekend snuggled up with TAGS, peach cobbler and the Porch. It doesnít get much better than this!

Prayers going up for you and yours.
ďOh Paw, cainít I even look at the pretty man?Ē -Charlene

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57181: Opps forgot to say hey to Mavis and Lucy - I always forget somebody!

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57182: Hey there MW glad to see you made it through those storms, that's one thing we don't see much of here in East TN/SW VA, thank goodness! I'm not sure who George is either, but he apparently doesn't care for some things he's reading on here. Hopefully he will come around. Spot glad to hear you are having fun with the kids, they DO grow up too fast, hard to believe my baby is 19 already! I know some of you long time porchsters find that hard to believe as well, but he sure is.

October 19, 2007 - Msg 57183: A big hello to you too Belle so glad to hear you have a lead on a place to live! That is so good! And what a great story about your son's roommate looking up a med student for him!
Rev have you been to the Camping World website? They have some really neat things on there for RV'ers. We got a crockpot cookbook from there as a wedding gift & I LOVE it! Go to the main page, scroll down & look to the left under Bed & Bath, there you will find a link for books & there's a few on there I would love to have. Cooking in an RV is a little challenging, these books I have seen are great! www dot campingworld dot com. I could spend way too much money on that website, we love heading out in our "house on wheels"
Ro be sure to take pictures of little Starr, I can't wait to see her! Gotta go get some things done before bed, but I'll be back.

October 20, 2007 - Msg 57184: Ok, told ya'll I'd be back, so here I am, back to say Good Night my Porch family! Sleep tight & don't let the bed bugs bite.

October 20, 2007 - Msg 57185: I'm signing out to--Goodnight to all of you. Mavis, glad to see you're back and Spot, I wish I could stay up with ya but I'm just bone-tired. Pleasant dreams to all. MW

October 20, 2007 - Msg 57186: Hello everyone.

I'm glad Merriweather and her family survived the high winds and tornados.

auh2o, I will remember your stepfather in my prayers.

auh2o, I read through your explanation (Msg 57122) about why you believed Lt Murphy's mission was so costly. I know you meant well, but even though I read it three times, I could not comprehend your reasoning. Maybe it would be better if we were honest with ourselves and just admit we don't know why it was so costly and leave it at that. Otherwise ... never mind.

auh2o, thanks for that link about the Armenian/Turkey resolution.
Shortly after the genocide occurred, a few nations condemned it and called for action. Unfortunately, the Ottoman Empire was never formally prosecuted in a world court nor was any restitution awarded to the surviving victims and families. My girlfriend is half Armenian and half Iranian. She tells me that her people only want official recognition of the genocide from other nations. They are not intersted in punishment since those who were responsible have long since passed away. Both her and I believe that this resolution serves no useful purpose.
For anyone interested in reading a very brief history of this genocide, please visit http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocidefaq.html. Also, a movie called Ararat was released in 2002. Watch it if you want to learn about the genocide. But please don't let your children watch it.

And to the new poster George, I wish you would elaborate about what is upsetting you. Please give us examples or just list the Msg numbers of the offending posts.

from Poor Horatio

October 20, 2007 - Msg 57187: Load up gang..trucks a running and waffle house awaits!....SPOT

October 20, 2007 - Msg 57188: Poor Horatio , thanks for asking, MSG 56694 (P word) AND 57163 (F WORD)ARE 2 EXAMPLES, BUT THERE ARE MANY MORE. I just stated how the mention of these words offended me and did I get blasted , and people on this site defending this language too. If the language that these words don't offend you , then just keep on saying them , but you might want to reconsider , since most of you claim to be CHRISTIAN . Again, I am not judging, I am just stating that that language offends me ; and our LORD JESUS CHRIST DID NOT USE THAT LANGUAGE IN HIS WORD.
I just feel that the mention of these words should be nipped in the bud because once you start using this language, it is so..ooo easy to continue.


October 20, 2007 - Msg 57189: Poor Horatio, SORRY,I typed in the wrong number. MSG 56694 IS NOT ONE THAT USED BAD LANGUAGE but 57163 is.


October 20, 2007 - Msg 57190: Mornin' Family-
Thought my day off would be sleeping late, but SOMEONE was honking the horn and gunning the motor on the truck, then there was whooping and holloring.. how's a body to sleep? SPOT! So, move over and let me sit by the window please, I get car sick if I don't.
On a sadder note: Last night at 5:30 a car with 5 high school boys were traveling fast on wet roads, hit a truck head on and 2 of the boys were killed and the other 3 were airlifted to Hershey Medical Center. My children play these boys in sports and we know these families very well. The families are Christians. Please lift them up today, it's going to be a hard day... ~New Neighbor

October 20, 2007 - Msg 57191: MSG 56994 was the P WORD ONE.


October 20, 2007 - Msg 57192: I guess I understand where you are coming from in a way, George, but neither of those words you mentioned was actually used. I don't honestly see that anyone "blasted" you and I have to tell you that it feels like you are judging since we don't know who you are and feel like you don't really know us. You make a point about how we should avoid bad language but it doens't feel like you are admonishing us in love, as Christ commands, "taking heed, lest ye also fall", it feels like you are being mean. Hope I'm wrong, but your posts seem that way to me.

Instead of coming on and "wham", criticizing some very nice folks before you even know them, why don't you just stick around for a bit, get to know us better and let us get to know you? Sometimes, as in cases like MSG 56694 (which was written by a very sweet Christian woman who is helping care for her little granddaughter who has Cerebral Palsy and is dealing with a very difficult family situation), we see beyond one letter to the pain that is in her heart when she expresses what is happening in her life, because we know her and love her...."love covers a multitude of sins"...."Mercy triumphs over judgement"....we believe in something called grace here and delight in showing it to one another. That's living the Christian life. We would like to share that grace with you, too. We are ourselves when we come here, warts and all sometimes.

Sorry you didn't rest well, New Neighbor. I feel the same way. I got one of those terrible headaches (not as bad as your poor daughter!) but I took some Excedrin Migraine and it has so much caffeine in it, it kept me from sleeping...maybe i will try to get in a few more z's while I can...

Prayers for those poor families and for you and your family, NN. Seems like you have had some real trials recently.


October 20, 2007 - Msg 57193: Boo. do you think we should overlook the language and just fall into the pit of accepting sin.
I just made a statement about the language that was being used and was immediately criticized.
As you said about being mean,,I am not being mean. I just did not want to sit back and say nothing to this.


October 20, 2007 - Msg 57194: Boo, I Hope your headache gets better.


October 20, 2007 - Msg 57195:
Hey Folks

Thank y'all so much for the prayers for my mom. She was in very good spirits yesterday.

Poor Horatio- I did see the movie you mentioned.

Boo-Morning! Couldn't agree more with your observation.

George-You my want to reread the post you mentioned above. You have taken the "f word" phrase way, way out of context. Before you're so eager to attack someone you should stop and at least check the facts. Saying that someone said you used this word is far different from using it. Possum does not post like that.

It seems to me that some of us are getting a bit thin skinned here on the porch lately. Almost everyone just hates politics and we have to run from the mere mention of it. But, we are never at a loss to complain when a school district doesn't allow prayer or a town board won't let a Nativity scene be displayed and when the courts take down the 10 Commandments from the courthouse walls it's an out rage. Well, these things are all decided politically, whether we like it or not. As Christian we have to decide who is for life, who is for freedom, what party wants to take parental rights away from the parents. Who is gonna raise and teach our kids values, the "Health teacher"? Who wants a board or committee to decide that an 11 year girl can receive birth control pills without the parents being told? Christians should be able to discuss these issues from time to time.