November 09, 2007 - Msg 57983: Oh my goodness, REV, a cold is the last thing you need. Get some echinacea, and take according to directions. It's not a miracle cure, but it does boost your immune system a bit. Also, Alka-Seltzer for Colds, taken about an hour before a concert, might help. It will make you feel better, and will dry you up a bit if you're all stuffy. Tastes awful, but works pretty well.

Miss Starr is a hoot! My desk is a standard office-type desk, knee space in the middle, three drawers down the left side, one regular drawer and a hanging-file drawer on the right. You know the kind I mean. She can walk right straight under it, doesn't even have to duck. She is racing around the house, tiny feet making little thumps as she runs, sails off the 4" step into the den and lands about three feet out in the room, light as a feather.

When I left this afternoon for a while, I put her crate in the bathroom door, facing into the bathroom. It just fits, no space for her to squeeze out alongside. I left the crate open, because her water bottle is inside, but she could go out into the bathroom to get to a piddlepad.

When I returned home, she met me at the door as I entered the house! I'm really not sure how she did it, but all I can figure out is that she climbed the inside of the crate, and pushed the top panel up with her head (it wasn't fastened down), climbed over the top and fell to the floor outside. Scary! At any point, she could have gotten a leg hung in the wire and broke it, or worse. Needless to say, the crate is back in its usual place. Now I'm afraid to "crate" her even for short periods, because she'll try to make that climb again. She's fearless! Fastening the top panel down won't fix everything, because she can still hang a leg in the wire. Her little legs will go all the way through, and she could be just dangling by one leg. I may as well just take the door off the crate, and consider it a fancy water-bottle holder.

I left again this evening to have dinner with my son and his family, and this time I just closed her up in the bathroom, no crate, and the lid down on the commode, since she's obviously a climber. When I came home, she had completely emptied a new roll of tissue, and was sitting in the middle of the pile of paper, looking very pleased with herself.

Yep, this little girl is going to keep me busy. She says 10-4. --Romeena

November 09, 2007 - Msg 57984: Now just look at that. 14 weeks old and she's helping me sweep! You can't ask much more of a puppy, I guess. --Romeena

November 09, 2007 - Msg 57985:

Ro, little Starr sounds PRECIOUS. I can't wait to see pics of her. Have you posted any in your album yet?

Praying hard for you, REV. I hope that nasty cold leaves you, and in plenty of time for your shows.


November 09, 2007 - Msg 57986:

Heads up: For those night owls amongst us, "Raising Arizona" is about to come on CMT, and it'll be the censored version. My youngun's never seen it and is gonna watch it with us.


November 09, 2007 - Msg 57987: "Son, you know you got a pantie on yore head?"

"Turn to the le-eft, turn to the raght."

"Well, it was all just kinda horrifyin', hon!"


November 10, 2007 - Msg 57988: Heck auh2o, don't take my word for it.

Relationship duration: While a high percentage of married couples remain married for up to 20 years or longer, with many remaining wedded for life, the vast majority of homos*xual relationships are short-lived and transitory. This has nothing to do with alleged "societal oppression." A study in the Netherlands, a gay-tolerant nation that has legalized homos*xual marriage, found the average duration of a homos*xual relationship to be one and a half years.8

-- Monogamy versus promiscuity: Studies indicate that while three-quarters or more of married couples remain faithful to each other, homos*xual couples typically engage in a shocking degree of promiscuity. The same Dutch study found that "committed" homos*xual couples have an average of eight s*xual partners (outside of the relationship) per year.9

8 Maria Xiridou, et al, "The Contribution of Steady and Casual Partnerships to the Incidence of HIV Infection among Homos*xual Men in Amsterdam," AIDS 17 (2003): 1031.

9 Ibid.

I invite you to take a look at these links as well, as the censor will just be having a field day with what is being talked about in them, and I don't want to be changing letters all night. :)

What I like about Family Research Council and Liberty Council is that they back up their claims with facts, and they back up those facts with sources so you can look it up for yourself. And there are more organisations that do that as well. And I am a "fact" kinda guy, so I like to know the sources to validate the research. It also shows that they are not trying to hide anything and they stand behind what they say.

Like Boo, I am really going to try to not talk about this anymore, as it is such a contentious issue(I know. I've had this same debate on other sites in the past and it just goes nowhere). Ultimately I think we will have to just agree to disagree as they say.
I'm even sorry I ruined a good sweep by bringing it up again. Sorry Ro, nice sweep, btw.

Goodnight all, and hopefully, no hard feelings.

-Sterling Holobyte

November 10, 2007 - Msg 57989:

The movie was good, Ro! "If round is funny." I think that's my all time favorite line. I didn't miss the cussin' either.

Sterling, I've heard theories that since males tend to be more promiscuous (certainly not all, of course!), an exclusively male partnership naturally lends itself to increased promiscuity. However, this doesn't address female partnerships, which are typically quite monogamous. I know no one's suggesting it's ok for one gender and not the other, so I'm not sure how this conforms to what you've outlined above. Regardless, I think that believing homosexuality is a choice suggests control over the situation and I understand how that might be preferable to believing that it could happen to anyone.

Well I'm gonna hit the ol' ironing board. Sure is nice to have civil conversations instead of the name-calling and vulgarities one frequently sees elsewhere, but like you, Sterling, I'm all for sticking a fork in this one. I think it's done. LOL

G'night, all.


November 10, 2007 - Msg 57990: I agree. I think we would never reach agreement on this subject because everyone's personal experiences are different. One person may have witnessed very negative and destructive relationships, while others may have seen relationships that seemed to work - for those involved, at least. Perhaps it's like the group of blind men who were given the chance to meet an elephant for the first time in their lives. One man touched its side, and declared that an elephant was like a wall. Another explored a leg, and said an elephant was like a tree. One found its tail, and said it was like a rope, while another felt the trunk and thought it was like a snake. It's all a matter of experiences and perspective. Just read back a bit, and you'll find all manner of differing experiences, thus differing opinions. I vote that we declare it a non-moulage, and a non-topic. Not that we cannot speak of it, but we can choose not to. This is a subject that goes back at least as far as Sodom and Gomorrah, and therefore we're not likely to solve it, explain it, and certainly not change it here on the porch. OK, that's my two cents' worth. For anyone who wishes to continue with another individual, there's always email, and that can be a good thing. Don't you just love this age of technology? I do - wouldn't have missed it for a dollar and a quarter! Starr says 10-4. --Romeena

November 10, 2007 - Msg 57991: I can't believe how late it is, heck, I'm missing out on some good beauty sleep! I watched the late TAGS tonight and one of my favorites was on--The Lady Prisoner. I think Susan Oliver and Andy would have made a great couple had it not been for the fact that she was a criminal! ;-)

I'm having out-of-town company tomorrow morning--my dear friend is coming to stay with us for the weekend. We're going to an orchard for lunch and running around in the fields, then to a Christmas bizarre at his home church with his in-town folks, we're staying for the spaghetti dinner and fellowship, then we're coming home and making cookies with the girls and watching "The Grinch that stole Christmas." Can you believe it's already coming on?? But it's a classic and the kids just love it so we'll partake. We're all excited for the fun plans and my hubby came home with an arm load of Thanksgiving decorations to spruce up the house. I thought that was, well--thoughtful! So, if I seem to disappear for a day or two, no worries. I'm just out having fun with my family and friends! My mama is even going with us, the brave soul! HA!!

RO, STARR sounds like a real sweet girl and a bit mischievous--how wonderful! I am SO excited to see pictures!!

REV, I've said healing prayers for you this evening. You rest as much as you can. You're in my thoughts friend.

NEW NEIGHBOR, now THAT'S funny!! Your kids smeared all in ashes! I laughed out loud!

DeS, "Raising Arizona" is one of those movies you can watch time and time again.

MDC, I loved your Thanksgiving story! And hey, sometimes the best part of the holiday meal is all the delicious sides! Talking about "Christmas Vacation" reminds me of that disgusting dog SNOTS! Oh, my stomach turns every time I hear that poor beast cough stuff up! I also get a kick out of the elderly couple where the aunt is supposed to say the dinner prayers. She can't quite hear what she's supposed to do and then the old guy shouts "He wants you to say THE BLESSING!" It kills me every time!

AUH2O, take care of yourself this weekend. I didn't get to read anything but the headline, but apparently some Senator or such has said he saw a UFO. He's a nut!

Have a great weekend my friends. I'll come rocking again soon! Blessings and PEACE to all! MW

November 10, 2007 - Msg 57992: Hey Folks

Sterling-What you posted and what we were talking about are two different things. There are "facts" and there are "facts." ~Des~ had it right, what skews the stats is male behavior whether in Homos*xual or hetros*xual life styles. Absolutely no hard feelings on this end, really, there are none but I am done discussing this topic.

Romeena-I couldn't agree more with your post. I didn't mean to condone or endorse that lifestyle, It's just none of my business.

Merri-Thanks for the heads-up.

Parole Board member: "They've got a name for people like you H.I. That name is called "recidivism."


November 10, 2007 - Msg 57993: Good morning friends. How are you all doing?
Sorry I have not been here much. Just very busy and dealing with all the things life can hand you.
Romeena, it sounds like you and Starr are gonna be a great match. I am so happy for both of you.

Prayers for your cold REV. Sure hope your uvula don't get big and red. (I seriously hope you get better soon friend)

Auh2o, good to see you back. It sounded like you was a leaving there a while back. WE NEED YOU!

Well I should like to be more individual with my responses but time won't allow so hey to all and prayers for all.


November 10, 2007 - Msg 57994: I love that part with "Aunt Bethany", too MW, and remember after that she stands up, puts her hand over her heart and starts to say the pledge of allegience?! ...the old guy with the bad toupee that plays her husband is a one part her tells her, "You couldn't hear a dumptruck driving through a nitroglycerin plant!"....I had better stop and leave some qoutes for Asa cause I could go on and on...

As far as Raising Arizona, I tried that one twice and couldn't stand it, sorry. Different strokes for different folks...

Romeena, that is so funny about the toilet paper (Go Starr!), hahaha. She is going to be a smart one, I can tell you. Her little mind needs lots of stimulation, and being shut in a bathroom is just too much for her. I'm glad you shut the lid on the potty!

Sounds like a fun weekend, MW. Stay safe.

MDC, saw Phoenix on the news yesteday. Really great about those two young boys lifting that van off the little boy who was trapped. Have you heard anything more on the condition of the child?

I agree with you, Ro, about the recent topic of conversation, but it sure is going to be hard for Me-They not to say something when he gets back after the weekend! ha

Well, I think everything is going to work out for the big fundraiser tonight. One act had to cancel, but the others and the skits are working out fine. In one of the skit Bruce and one of the other deacons has to appear in funny boxer shorts (one pair looks like santa boxers with white fur trim and the other has a pig bottom on the back), they will also be wearing dress shirts, ties, dress shoes and dress socks, so I think they will look hilarious...reminds me...I need to take my camera. If I get a good shot I will send it for the photo site.

Think I'll have a little quiet time while the kids are sleeping and psyche myself up for the big day....


November 10, 2007 - Msg 57995: Hey Asa, good to see you! Sorry life is handing you such difficulty right now. My prayers for you today.


November 10, 2007 - Msg 57996: Hi, all. I need your help. As you know, I've been unsure about the puppy's name all along. I really like Starr, but have just never been completely comfortable with it. For some reason, I keep wanting it to be two syllables. I know, with my Texas drawl I probably make it two syllables, but that doesn't really count.

This morning, she was buzzing around here, all busy and full of herself, and I picked her up, saying "Come here, dynamite". Suddenly I saw a name, like it was written in the air - "Dinah Mite". It could be Dinah Mite Starr, if I wanted to preserve the "Starr" on her papers, but she would be called Dinah, and probably referred to as The Mite.

What do you all think? I still like Starr, and have been calling her by that name, but she's too little to know her name yet, so it wouldn't matter. I wish Starr wasn't so pretty, it would make the decision a lot easier.

I'm accepting votes, and would appreciate your opinion.

I know, I'm a nutty old lady, but bear with me. Blessings! Puppy says 10-4. --Romeena

November 10, 2007 - Msg 57997: Good Saturday porch, hope all is well today. A somewhat cloudy cool day on Northeast Tennessee.

I am watching Tennessee vs Alabama on the tv, doing laundy, ran the vaccum and dusted a bit. We had a late night with my sons football game. They won their game and will advance to round 2 of the regional playoffs. This is quite a big win for them as they were the underdogs of the game going in but in overtime they won 21-14. We were pretty excited for them as they have worked hard and this is the first time in the schools football program they have advanced this far. Round 2 will be next Friday night.

Romeena, I love the name Dinah Mite Starr, seems to fit with her personality, good idea.

I would like to put my close friends Mom on the porch prayer list please. Her Mom is about 78 years old and is in the hospital, high blood pressure and kindey problems. They have started her on dylasis(sp?) and are doing a kindey biopsy on Monday, she has been losing blood so they are not sure what is going on with her, My friend is an only child and now lives in Marion Alabama so it has been difficult for her to make decisions about her parents who are not well. Both my friend and her Mom would appreciate it. Thanks.

Dinner will be: fried chicken, mashed potatoes, green beans, slaw, rolls, apple cobbler, tea, kool aid to drink. There is ice cream for those who want that with their pie. come early and we will have a sing a long.

Take care Prayers and blessings to all Big Maude

November 10, 2007 - Msg 57998: opps, should be kidney problems sorry Big Maude

November 10, 2007 - Msg 57999: Hey, Big Maude. Prayers for your friend's mom. I know how difficult that road is that she's walking right now, especially if she's not in close proximity to them. I at least had that luxury, being in the same town with my parents and able to guide them on selecting doctors, etc. Also, I knew all the doctors and they would be very candid with me, which helped.

Naming this puppy is making me crazy. My husband and I named Sugarplum on the way home the day we picked her up. It was so easy, and it fit her so perfectly. This one is hard! So far, nothing really clicks. Dinah Mite is good, but I've gotten a couple of negatives from family, and I just don't know. Oh well, something will present itself, I'm sure.

Blessings, all. --Romeena

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58000: call her wishing starr

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58001: Afternoon Family:
Rev; you're sure in our prayers. Don't need to be doing the Barney - me-me-me-thing.
Asa: please know we are still praying for the family and Mrs. along with the arrival of that new granddaughter.
MW- I have a million stories, in fact, several people have told me to write a book, but someone keeps taking my pens!!! Wonder what causes that?
Well, gotta go, little one is ready to go get a bite of supper. ~New Neighbor

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58002: Ro, I like Dinah Mite. I think it's cute. I can see calling her "Dinah". Altho, if called Dinah Mite, folks might think you are a fan of "Good Times". (I think that was the show where JJ always said "Din-o-mite!".) I also like the nick name "The Mite", like we called Sugarplum "The Plum." I did like the name "Starr", but understand you want a longer name. How bout Star Light? Ok, maybe that's not so good. Starry doesn't sound right either. You could call her Candy Cane. Since Sugar Plum was kind of a Christmasy name. I'm not much help, I'm afaid. All I know is that if "Starr" doesn't seem quite right, then you probably should change it.
- Hazel

Otis: "Peter Piper picked a peck of picked peppers."

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58003:
Big Maude-Prayers for your buddy's Mom. There is always time to pray for a Mom.

Romeena-I think Hazel summed it up great. I love the name Dinah, don't you know (little play on words there, very little).

Asa-Great to see ya and that was awful nice of ya to say. Still praying for your family.

Boo-Hope all goes well on your "Big Day."

Someone's in the kitchen with Dinah,
Someone's in the kitchen I know.
Someone's in the kitchen with Dinah,
Strummin' on the old banjo.


November 10, 2007 - Msg 58004:
Andy: Barn, if you cant find your whistle, you could blow across an empty pop bottle. It'll sound like a boat coming in!

APB for Quiet Sam!

Hope you are all having a good weekend.
Racing fever is big here.
Happy Sabbath, first things first ya know!
ole MDC

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58005: Hello everyone.

Speaking as a Navy and Army veteran, I have a simple request for everyone. Please pause for just two minutes of your valuable time, a mere pittance of time, at the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month, to remember all military veterans who sacrificed so much to achieve the freedom that we enjoy today. Thank you.

Romeena, as for renaming your dog, I have three suggestions:
Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
Lone Star (Texas theme)

from Poor Horatio

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58006: Thanks, PH. Actually, Twinkle Twinkle Little Starr was one that came to mind a few days ago, and is in consideration. I can't imagine that I'm having this much trouble naming a puppy!

I should hope that everyone will be observing a moment of prayer or contemplation, according to one's personal choice, at that moment. One of my great fears is that we will do what Americans usually do, and let the whole thing fade from our consciousness. Those films of the burning, collapsing towers should be required viewing in schools with some degree of frequency, and should be on every TV channel, whether network or local, on that day. We have to work to keep that memory alive, or it will be forgotten.

Of the two grandsons who live in this area, one was 7 months old on that day, and one wasn't born. They will have absolutely no memory of it unless we tell them. How many of you porchsters remember the day Kennedy was shot? Some, but some don't.

Here's a good one. How many of you remember Pearl Harbor? VJ Day? VE Day? How many remember WWII at all? Not very many, because most of you are too young. Oh, you know about it, because it was probably at least touched on in your history classes at school, and Archie Bunker often mentioned "WWII, the big one", but I'll guarantee you that it doesn't hold the meaning for you that it does for me and the few other porchsters who are my age.

I remember the newsreels in the theaters, and sitting beside the radio in the evening, listening to the news and seeing the concern on my parents' faces. I remember listening to the "fireside chats", and seeing my dad fidget because he was in a critical job and couldn't join or be drafted, but he wanted to go.

I recall the cold fear that came over us children when we had practice blackouts in San Antonio. With all the military installations in that town, we were a prime target. I remember hearing my cousins crying at night, worried about their daddy who was in Germany. I was just a small child, but things like that make an indelible impression. I remember.

We had darn well better remember 9/11, and support any effort that's being made to keep it from happening again, and refrain from griping about a little inconvenience at the airport. I could go on into the importance of our military presence in the Middle East, but I don't want to start a moulage, so I'll leave that alone. I just know that there are people in positions of responsibility who have a lot of knowledge I don't have. I'm glad I don't have to make the choices that they must make sometimes.

Starr/Dinah/Nameless Puppy says 10-4. --Romeena

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58007:
Hello porch family.....Thank you all so much for your prayers. You all are the BEST.

Ro...I'll give that a try before my concert. Thanks!
By the way....I love the name "Dinah Mite Starr".

Well I've got to get some sleep. Got a long day tomorrow. Again, thank you all for your prayers and know that you all are in my heart.
Paryers and blessings

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58008:
P-H....yes, I too am a ex-Navy man and will pause to remember/pray for our military vets and our active military that are serving even as I post this. Thank God for our freedom and for the men and women that have served to protect our freedom.
God Bless America and America Bless God!

November 10, 2007 - Msg 58009:
Romeena-I was born in 1960 so I wasn't around for most of the dates you mentioned. I can recall family members going off to Vietnam and can also recall some locals boys that didn't comeback. Our little neck of the woods is small enough that all those boys names are still mentioned, they are our heroes. My sister dated one of the boys. My father failed his physical for W.W.II and it troubled him quite a bit that he couldn't go. My Mom has told me how depressed he was and that he never really got over it. He died at age 52 because of his heart condition. Well, I'm starting to ramble but I loved your post. I love the ones that make ya think.

Rev & PH-Thanks for your service! And, MDC's Dad. God bless you guys. Sorry if I missed any other service men on the Porch.

Andy: "The British is comin, the British is comin! Git your guns, we gonna have us a revolution!"


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58010:

Ro, my vote is for Starr, although I like Dinah, too. Whatever you choose is going to be perfect, as you're most familiar her personality! Just don't name her "Tater" like I did one of my cats. Po' kitty... :-)

Prayers for your friend's mother, Big Maude.

Prayers also for all our veterans and active military. I think I'll call my dad.


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58011: Ro, I like Starr but maybe it doesn't roll off the tongue just right or something. Not crazy about Dinah but I think "The Mite" is cute, although I think of a bug when I hear it...that could be cute since she is so small.

The fundraiser was a smash! Made enough money on the auction to send every kid in the youth group to camp. It was alot of work, but it was worth it. The kids did a great job waiting tables and serving food, cleaning up, etc. and the entertainment was really good. There was this elderly man in the front table who I didn't know but he looked like someone important and he came in wearing this very expensive Stetson hat (light gray). Well, I was helping to refill the tea glasses and I didn't notice his hat sitting alone on one of the chairs like one of the guests!...yep, you guessed it...I dribbled some tea on the hat. The guy was not happy but I must say I wasn't as unhappy about it as I should have been. He was a very wealthy man I found out later and he spent alot of money at the auction (even bought a cake for 500.00). I guess he had paid for the chair that his hat was sitting on! ha. Anyway, his first reaction was to be upset (he didn't yell or anything) and I quickly blotted the few little spots with a napkin. I did check on the hat later, which was safely tucked away in the church office, and luckily, the spots were dried and you couldn't even tell it happened. What I want to know is why anyone would want a hat that they would have to live in fear of a drop of water hitting? After the auction he gave me a hug and said his first reaction was negative because he really loved the hat. The elderly can be so funny, but then add in rich and eccentric and you have a real mix there! The guy was a character..looked alot like Colonel Sanders. Oh, I got a pretty good picture of Bruce and my friend Keith wearing the funny boxers from the skit. I will be sure and send it to Romeena for your enjoyment...if you can call it that.

Off to church!


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58012: ..and Happy Veteran's Day...


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58013: BOO= a cake for 500.00 was it may out of gold haha


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58014: Haven't had time to catch up on the archives but wanted to let you know that my son placed in the top three of an essay writing contest at school about Veteran's Day. He'll be reading it at the assembly tomorrow. Yep - my son and I am proud as a peafowl! (sensor caught me!)

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58015: Doesn't surprise me, Homemaker...that boy sounds like a chip off the old block (meaning you).


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58016: God Bless Our Veterans and those who so selfishly serve our country.

Ro,I like the name Starr,but think perhaps Dinah-Mite fits her better. Starr sound like she's just gonna be a pretty little thing,but Dinah-Mite is both pretty and spunky,which it seems from all accounts she is.Dinah Mite Starr gets my vote!

Hey Boo,that guy with the hat better steer clear of your WalMart! If he almost had a fit over a drop or two of tea,can you imagine if a bird got him? Hee Hee

Congrats to your son,homemaker-I know you're proud! I'm happy for y'all.

Prayers for your friend's mom,Big Maude.Also for our Rev.- get well soon. Asa,prayers continue friend.

I have a prayer request.My daughter's best friend since kindergarten(only 27) has just been diagnosed Friday with cervical cancer.She won't know until Tuesday if it has spread to lymph nodes.My daughter is so worried for her.Please pray that it is in the early stages and is treatable. This is the same young lady,Kim,that I told y'all about over the summer.She & her husband lost triplets-two in utero and one was born too early and didn't survive.Kim has had it hard lately.If you would keep her in your prayers,it would mean so much.Thank you guys.I'll keep you posted.

Also,I want to be sure to say how grateful I am to our Porchsters who have served our country-God Bless you all-and thanks.

possum under a rock

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58017: Thank you Veterans for all your sacrifices!! Some have sacrificed their time, some their family members, some their health, or marriages have been sacrificed, and yet others untimately the biggest - their lives! THANK YOU--- I stand and salute you!

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58018: Prayers for Kim, Possum. Sounds like she has a heavey load to bear.

Yep, I hadn't thought about the old guy wearing his hat to Walmart but it would have been ruined for sure if that orange bird poop had hit it! haha, what a funny thought.

Speaking of poop, I am really pooped at the end of this weekend! Been a busy one, for sure. Met with the lady's comittee for a meeting about our annual Lady's retreat in January, and we could have used some of the Colonel's Elixir to liven things up...

I am really looking forward to my upcomping vacation. I think I am going to really appreciate it this time.


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58019: HERE'S TO YOU, AMERICA!

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58020: Hi All.
it ben a cold and wet dayhere.
I am looking for some more gum wrapper , I'm holding at 725ft right now, or maybe I will just stop there.
Romeena it ben 44 year the Kennedy was shot, and I was just gitting out of school that day.
Had family that take about wwll and befor that time too.

My county, tis of thee,
Sweet land of liberty,
Of thee I sig;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrim's pride,
From every mountain side
Let freedom ring!
My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills;
My heart with rapture thrills,
Like that above.
Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.
Our fathers'God to thee,
Author of liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With freedom's holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our king.


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58021:
Beautiful! Thanks Tom.
Auh20- thanks for remembering my dad. He is now almost 90.
This past spring we went to Scottsdale Airport to see a B-24 Liberator, the one rolling off the assembly line in Ken Burn's The War. I only found out this year that my dad also flew that plane on a few missions! I always thought he was exclusively an A-20 pilot. As we walked thru the fuslage of that B24, he pointed out cabling that attaches to the rudder etc, and he told me that one time anti-aircraft fire went right thru the cable. There were only 2 strands giving them any rear rudder control, yet he was able to bring it back. Those guys were amazing! The War should be required in all US History classes to REALLY show kids today what their forefathers did to keep this country free from the tyranny of Hitler and Hiroito and Musulinni! In THe War, one captured German knew every detail about Waterbury CT, as he was to be in charge of that town when Hitler invaded us! Scary stuff.
THANK A VET TODAY or whenever you see one!
Thanks for serving PH, Pappa Bear, REV and others! We love ya all.
God bless,

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58022:
BTW, it still amazes me to see those gals doing all that welding and riveting etc in the factories! They were great also! Thanks ladies!

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58023: BOY have I got some reading to do..hey brother Rev,good jimmy j race today!hey ro,boo,hazel,mdc,Tom and all...well Maude hope you and asa took care of vittles today...and if there is any left overs send me a plate K?..well let me get the animals fed...back in a bit...Happy and blessed Sunday...SPOT

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58024: MDC, I made sure to call and tell my dad Happy Veteran's Day. He is 82 and served in the Navy during WW2. Today was also he and mom's 51st wedding anniversary. I pray I'll see 61 in ten years.

Thanks for posting those beautiful lyrics to a beloved song.

Can't chat long tonight...too beat. I'm off to the ironing board!


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58025: Congrats to your Mom and Dad Miss Boo..mine will celebrate their 54th the 28th day of this month..both healthy as a hog!....SPOT

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58026: Snack time!..and by the way breakfast will be at waffle house on me!...snack will be ..hum..pound cake and milk...SPOT

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58027: A big "thank you" to all the vets out there - God bless you abundantly for your service. My dad is a Vietnam Veteran.

Prayers for all the needs among us.

That "Dinah" song that Andy sang came to mind, auh2o, and JJ's "Din-o-mite" did as well, Hazel. You'll probably think this sounds goofy, Ro, but ever since you tossed the name Starr out there I think of her as little "Starr Fish". Goofy I know, but I think you get the gist of what I meant. ; )


November 11, 2007 - Msg 58028: On a positive note, a friend sent me this in an email: Birthdays are wonderfull....the more you have, the longer you will live.

I seldom remember anyones birthday or any other date and had sent a belated birthday wish trying to explain why. What a great reply.

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58029: Brother Rev hope ya are feeling better..hey ray,Andys Favorite Dish!..[leg-o-lamb]..back in a bit ...watching the colts...SPOT

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58030: I can't talk long but wanted to submit a name that is completely unrelated to STARR--how about COCONUT? You could call her "CoCo." I love that. Just a suggestion. I must get some rest. I have pneumonia, the walking kind. I fainted at my parent's house this evening and ended up at Urgent Care--I fainted because my blood pressure was unusually low. Blah. That's just how I feel. Blah. I had a really active weekend so I think that must have put me over the edge and I've apparently been in denial for a while about this "cold" that I've seemed to have had for 6 weeks!! Duh. RO, let me know how you like "CoConut!!" Blessings everyone. I missed you all this weekend---Merri "Weak-lunged" Weather ;-)

November 11, 2007 - Msg 58031: P.S. REV, take one from me, don't let this cold go on and on. Go see a dr. just in case, my friend. Sure hope you're feeling better! Bless your heart.

November 12, 2007 - Msg 58032: Mornin' Porch:
Thank you Veterans for all you have done!
Thought I'd sneak in and wish everyone a blessed day, and I promise I'll shut the door quietly when I leave. Have a good one~New Neighbor

November 12, 2007 - Msg 58033: Getting ready to go hear my son read his essay. He looks so handsome! We fancy up here with cowboy shirts, nice jeans, and his cowboy boots. Yee haw!

Boo - my parents will celebrate number 61 on the 29th. Casey was their anniversary present 11 years ago!


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58034: Wow, Hm, that's terrific. Imagine being married for 61 years, what a blessing (for most people anyway!). hehe

Merri, I walked aroung in "Pneumonia Denial" once for weeks. Get some rest, please and plenty of fuids along with your meds.

Have to get Erin off to school...


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58035: Good morning folks. I hope that everyone had a good weekend. I was busy working for the BBB--bucket banning brigade--and their fine work to have dangerous 5-gallon buckets banned.

Salute to all our veterans, although we should really be honoring them every day. My great grandfather was in the navy in WWI, my grandfather was a paratrooper in WWII, and my dad served in the Navy in the early 60s. He (thankfully) never saw combat but was wounded during the Cuban blockade when the destroyer he was on suffered an explosion while refueling from an aircraft carrier. ROMEENA: Of course I don;t remember the things of which you spoke, but since I am a student of history I really can appreciate them.

By the way, Dinah is a dynamite name.

Not really having much to add to the ongoing moulage, I will say that perhaps the elephant in the room has not been formally introduced. Whether or not being homos*xual is nature or nature is one thing, and whether such a lifestyle is a sin or not is another. Both those issues aside, however, I think what STERLING and a lot of other parents today are objecting to is the normalization of the lifestyle as it pertains to the raising of their children.

Unfortunately, there are a number of people who are intent on inclusion of the lifestyle as absolutely normative behavior in regard to public education. It is already showing up in supposed innocuous textbook passages, not to mention "health" education. Even more distutbing is the tact used to suppress objections to the normalization of the lifestyle. Parents who speak out are said to be bigoted, or worse, and put on par with parents who teach white supremecy, etc.

The reality is that homos*xuality exists, and homos*xuals deserve the same love and respect anyone does. But the practice of same is against many Christian's beliefs, and they do not want it taught in a condoning way to their children. I believe that we can have one (the former) without the other (the latter). And that is my last word on the subject.

Happy anniversary, HM's parents!

Prayers for REV, MAUDE's friend's mom, and POSSUM's daughter's friend.

See y'all at lunch.


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58036:
Morning Porch

Merri-Sure up you're up an at 'em pretty soon. You too, Rev.

hm-Great news about your boy!

AFD-...and a big THANK-YOU to your Dad and Boo's Dad and ~Des'~ Dad and pappa bear!

MDC-Nice story about your Dad, those must be great to listen to.

Just saw on the news that Fabio and George Clooney got into a "fight," can only imagine the hair pulling and scratching that went on between those to... "men."

Romeena-While this doesn't have anything to do with Veterans Day I can remember after RFK was shot our elementary school had a moment of silence in honor of him and quite a few teachers had tears in the eyes and some were openly sobbing. I was in 3rd grade but that has always stayed with me because seeing my teachers cry really kinda scared me. Being a little kid during the 60's was a confusing time and I'm so glad I had a rock solid family surrounding me at home. I think coming of age during that period sparked my interest in politics and history and nudged me into getting involved, in my own small way. Oh look, I'm rambling again, go figure.

Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58037:
Hey M-T


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58038: Hey there, AUH2O. I hear that Fabio said, "nu-uh" and George said, "uh-huh."

How about if a start a new moulage? I can't find the exact quote (but I'm looking), but a very prominant and esteemed American, former ambassador, publisher, and mentor to presidents complained that immigration must be controlled because the new immigrants won't learn our language or customs and are changing the fabric of our country. The man was Benjamin Franklin complaining about the Germans coming here. Sound familiar?



November 12, 2007 - Msg 58039: Oh my, here we go...I will say that I have a family living next door who I suspect are illegals and they are the nicest people. The mom is learning English well, the dad is hard-working. They don't have much but what they have is clean and cared for and their little ones are so sweet and friendly (and speak English well), they are always clean and well-dressed and mom watching over them like a hawk.
I like having them as neighbors.

Auh2o, that remark about Fabio and Clooney was RIOT! Thanks for the laugh...

Me-They, I agree with your post about what I said I wouldn't comment on..I was saving my last comment for when you returned...hehe. Heard something interesting today concerning, the "culture war" that those with Christians principles are in today in this country: "Today's Christian has to ask the same question as the Israelites asked during the Babylonian captivity: 'How can I sing the Lord's song in a foreign land'-that's the dilemma we face in a cultural revolution"-RC Sproul.

Lots to do...


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58040: Looks like we will be keeping the bunny rabbit and we are trying to come up with a good name. I think we have determined that he is a boy and I noticed that when he stands up, he looks just like he is wearing black pants (they have a waist and end at the feet), very cute. I thought about these names (ya'll tell me which you like best): Pants, Knickers, and Levi...what do you all think?


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58041: I vote for Knickers - it sounds like a bunny name.

The program was fabulous this morning and Casey was presented $30 for winning second place in the essay contest.

We had our first "kid" born for the kidding season. A little girl - unnamed as of yet but a real keeper!


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58042: Hey there, BOO and HM. This place has gone from the dogs to the barnyard animals ;).

AUH2O: I'm sure you heard about the recent flap during the Latin America conference. Looks like good old King Juan Carlos got to tell Chavez would the rest of us would like to. Might even change my opinion of monarchs.

Juan Carlos: "Por que no te callas?" (Why donĺt you shut up?)

"I didn't know you were in Spanish Club."

November 12, 2007 - Msg 58043: And good for Casey, HM! I forgot to cheer.


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58044: M-T, you is right good there with that Spanish talk. . .I only wishing you could write English that well! Ha Ha

Thanks for Casey!


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58045: auh2o - Clooney and FAbio in a fight - which girl won? Sorry - not a big fan of Clooney man!


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58046: us all are nut

November 12, 2007 - Msg 58047: ...uh, well, in a manner of speaking, Dr.Pat....

M-T, I like Knickers best, too, but soon realized that it is really easy to accidently make it sound like a terrible "racial slur", so I don't know...Don't want to end up in the same hot water as Dog the bounty hunter.


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58048: It is almost 90 degrees here all week, this is ridiculous! I left the bunny outside in his cage to get a little sun and almost gave him heat stroke. The poor thing was prostrate when I brought him in the house. I can't wait for New Mexico.

Speaking of Clooney and Fabio the "Can't Believe It's Not Butter" man, after taking a good look at Fabio's build, Clooney is real lucky he didn't end up in the hospital. Fabio might be a "girly-man" but he's big, lots bigger than Clooney. I sure wish he would cut that hair just to see how he would look.


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58049: ...uh, not TOO good a look at his build...(just wanted to clarify that)...


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58050:
Me-They Ok, I'll bite. I think Franklin's concern was "right-on the mark." My fathers family is of German descent. So, I guess that makes it ok for me, in this PC world we live in, to take a shot at the Germans. But, Franklin was correct. Assimilation is what it's all about. If you don't want to assimilate why come here. As for today's illegals if they are concerned about being called illegals then back get in line and do it right.

hm Yes! Congrats again to Casey! And, nothing warms my heart more than seeing Clooney's, Penn's and Redford's anti-American movies going down in flames. Now if only the writers strike could last forever.

Boo-It's ok Boo. What's that line from Tombstone? "Prettiest man I ever saw!"

Benny Franklin: "The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58051: I love that movie! ("Tombstone") Although I must confess I enjoyed "Ocean's Eleven," the last Sean Penn movie I watched was "Fast Times" (a way long time ago--probably 20 years), and the last Redford movie I liked was something about him being a government worker and stumbling across a secret case--I don't remember what it was called ("The Eagle Has Landed?") back from the 70s.

Regarding the German immigrants, the area of Maryland in which I live was heavily settled by them in the late 18th/early 19th centuries. Some of them were captured Hessian solders who stayed after the war. There were German schools (almost as many as English) until mid-century, and the last of them didn't close until public schools were created in the 1870s. They weren't fluent English speakers until about the third generation and today we are heavily influenced by their culture, whether most know it or not. From doughnuts to sauerkraut, and the way we do business, the best of both cultures was merged.

My point was that many thought the sky was falling because strange people were coming and people feared their own culture would be changed. Well, it was, but for the better. Assimilation IS what it is all about, but that also means the things assimilated will help create something new. Our culture will look a whole lot more Latin in 100 years, that's a certainty. But if history is any indication it will be for the better.

The idea that immigrants came here in years gone by and immediately cast off all vestiges of their native cultures is a fantasy. It didn't happen. That's why most cities had enclaves of Polish, or Irish, or Italian, or Swedish, etc. To them, being an American was a state of mind, not a language or diet. They loved their native cultures as well as their new country. Most of the immigrants I meet today seem the same.

Regarding illegal immigration, well, anything with the word "illegal" in the description is, by my definition, not good, period. I'm only talking about those who do/did it the right (legal) way.


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58052: FYI, I looked up the Redford movie which was called "Three Days of the Condor." At least I had the bird part sorta right. In the interest of truth, I also forgot that I really enjoyed "The Sting." And, I like Mr. Newman's pasta sauce ;).


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58053:

Boo, I like Levi, but I think HM is right; Knickers sounds more like a bunny name.

A few more trouser names: Oshkosh, Dockers, Armani, Calvin (as in Klein)? LOL


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58054:
Hey there M-T. Just missed ya. I think the whole subject is moot unless, like you said, if immigrants "do/did it the right way." I not sure anyone has a problem with people following the law, especially in these times of Government hand-outs. That is also true what you said about assimilation, "things assimilated will help create something new." However, assimilation must come first.


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58055:
Hi ~Des~


November 12, 2007 - Msg 58056:
Prayers for MW ! Get thee to bed, and lots of fluids! The fainting was probably due to dehydration. Please be careful. and don't forget the VICKS!
MT, auh20- Just think , if Ben Franklin got his way and the turkey was named our national bird, we would be having roast EAGLE on the 22nd instead of the traditional main course! haha
BTW, I wished pappabear a Happy Vets Day in a recent letter and, he wrote back that he would observe it by making sure he got his dog in for a check-up and would thank his vet at that time! haha he is too much!
HM- congratulations to both "Kids!"
Boo- I see what you mean about the name, besides.. i think the knickers belong to New York! ha
Hang in there folks.
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