June 23, 2008 - Msg 63558: Listen, I totaly reject slavery and the South's dependence on this instituiton. My family during these times had no slaves or a small family who worked on the farm with them. I have nothing argainst Mr. Obama except that he is the most liberal member of congress along with Ted Kennedy. I do not like his stands on issues and when, I will comment on him please do not think it is racist. Thanks...The "Dud"

June 23, 2008 - Msg 63559: Dud, I'm with you on that point. I'm getting tired of people asking me if I'm a racist when they learn I will not vote for Obama. Race has nothing whatsoever to do with it. As a matter of fact, I think it's time we had a black President, because I think it would go a long way toward healing old wounds and hushing up those who want to play the race card whenever things don't go their way. I'd have voted for Colin Powell in a heartbeat, and there are others who would be immensely qualified. Obama is not one of them. I hate to see him elected, because in my heart of hearts, I think he's going to botch the job miserably, and that will only fuel the fires of the racists and white supremacists. Can't you just hear them? "See, what did you expect?"

No, I think we're ready for a black President, and when a qualified candidate comes along, I'll vote for him. Mr. Obama has too much smoke around him, and I don't want to learn where the fires are. He's too young and inexperienced, he just preaches about change ad nauseum, but there is no substance, no explanation of how these changes are to be effected. He may be sincere, but he just doesn't have the depth for the office. I certainly could be wrong, and if he's elected and proceeds to do an exemplary job, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.

I'm not sure McCain is going to accomplish any glories either, but at least he's older and presumably, wiser. I guess time will tell. This I know - it's still America (so far) and we still have the right to our opinion and to vote according to our own conscience. Vote as you please, but please vote. --Romeena

June 23, 2008 - Msg 63560: I certainly hope that I'm not judged a racist for voting or not voting a certain way.

I do disagree with your last comment, ROMEENA. Given a choice of some knucklehead who hasn't taken a moment to examine the candidates and issues and basically is just flipping a coin in their head, or having them just stay home and leave it people who actually give half a consideration to the process, I'd just as soon they choose to sit it out. I just have never seen the sense in trying to guilt, cajole, push, or otherwise convince someone to vote who left to their own devices would be content to stay home. If someone doesn't care if they vote, I don't really care to have them vote.


June 23, 2008 - Msg 63561: Well. Me-They, you do indeed make a valid point. I guess I just live in a little dream world, a world in which people are making informed choices in matters of such great importance. Actually, I live by what you said, when it comes down to it. When my DH was alive, he would research the issues, and was always well-informed. I, on the other hand, hadn't a clue, so I always voted his choices. (Forgive me, Gloria Steinem.) It made more sense than voting for some guy because he had a cute smile, or nowadays, for some woman just because she was a woman. I can't fall back on his choices anymore, so now I have to work at being better informed and make my own decisions.

You are absolutely right, of course. Do not vote unless you have at least a general working knowledge of the platforms of the candidates, and some clue as to their background and preparation for such a grave responsibility. If someone is voting for Mr. Obama just because he's black, then shame on you, and please stay home. On the other hand, if in your own good conscience, he's the better man for the job, then by all means, please vote for him. If you're voting for Mr. McCain because you admire him for his war hero status, then don't. While admirable, that doesn't necessarily qualify him to run the country. Oh my. We are in perilous times. God help us all. --Romeena

June 23, 2008 - Msg 63562: On a happier note, I'm watching the most gorgeous butterfly at this moment. Black and yellow, as big as the palm of my hand, just drifting and flitting all over the yard, visiting first one flower and then another. He doesn't care one whit who gets elected. Isn't that wonderful? --Romeena

June 23, 2008 - Msg 63563: Hope our next president isn't a butterfly collector... ;)


June 23, 2008 - Msg 63564:
MT & Dud-I have a great appreciation for my family history, warts and all. There are some things that make me wince and others that make me very proud. The first thing I check for when doing some genealogy is, did they own slaves (none so far). Slavery was the cause of the Civil War. It could be called a "States Rights" issue but the issue was slavery. The founders knew it was gonna happen and it had over 70 years to fester.

MT & Dud Do you guys do any genealogy much?

Asa-I just can't imagine Obama as President (but I think I better learn how). Wind fall profit tax? Wow!

As for voting, if someone doesn't care enough to follow the issues they should just stay home on election day and let the grownups vote.

Hazel & Romeena- You two hit the mark with driving irritations.

Even though prices have jacked up we're staying pat also, this too shall pass.


June 23, 2008 - Msg 63565: We defy the Mafia!

June 23, 2008 - Msg 63566:
Tomorrow marks the 60th anniversary of the beginning of the Berlin airlift! The USA ia a good country full of a lot of good people!
There I said it and I aint takin' it back!
Barney:(After Otis gets a car) It's not enough having a plain ole town drunk, now we have a mechanized one!

June 23, 2008 - Msg 63567: M-T it actually [the camper]turned out to be a 30 ft...she is gona make her mind up tonight...we leave for camping friday and I told her just done make a quick move...the one I have now is a caddy for its size..well Ga bulldogs are playing in the world series!...but loosing right now to fres!..I missed supper...any leftovers?...hey yall have the hamburger joints called Fudruckers?...we ate lunch there...Good..they cook the patty and cheese it but you do the rest with a BIG veggie and pickle and onion bar...its good....well let me get otis put up and opie fed...hey possum,Tom,Rev look for the truck?..are you in Dud country?...hey Maude,hazel,auh20,CHUCK!?,lucy,robyn,horatio,MDC,goober,md,Asa my buddy and mavis??...well back in a bit i go in at 2 tomorrow for 16 the next 2 days then off for a week and LAKE and camping....SPOT

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63568: "How I vote brother, is my business!"
~Barney Fife

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63569: Snack time...snickers.....SPOT

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63570: Good morning everyone!

AUH2O: I don't do much genealogy, but one of the facilities we run is an archives and research center so there's quite a bit of research going on here on any given day. Our research center staff and volunteers are quite knowledgable about it. On my mom's side of the family the genealogy is done and published. The family is pretty prominent in Maryland and there is a large organization that has been around since the 1950s who does it. On my dad's side, they didn't get here until the mid-19th century and my dad and some of his cousins pretty much traced it back. So, my work is largely done, unless I'd want to trace it back past arrival in America. Good thing, too, because while I love certain types of research, genealogy isn't one of them. It can be pretty tedious. On my mom's side a number of people had large farms and were well off, so, being English, owned slaves. My dad's relatives were poor, and German, so did not. Both sides fought for the correct side--the U.S.--in the Civil War ;). (That was for you, DUD--just funnin')

SPOT: My parents and grandparents had trailers that big when I was a teenager. They had showers, and my granddads had a/c. That was the kind of camping I enjoyed.


June 24, 2008 - Msg 63571: Mornin' Y'all! I'm still here- just that we've had lots of T-storms and I've been unable to use the computer.

If anybody's looking for Count Telecky,I think he's hanging around my Rock.This is my 2nd attempt at posting-right in the middle of my 1st post,my computer logged itself off,shut down and restarted! Strange!

Has anybody heard from Merriweather? She's been AWOL for quite some time now,and I know she lives in Missouri.Hope she's not affected by the floods out there. I miss her-hope all's well. Haven't seen Opiemom here lately either.We need to send a posse out to round up our missing Porchsters!

Well,I need to get a few things done around here,so I'll mosey off for now.Y'all take care!
possum under a rock

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63572: Good morning, all. Just got home from work, tired but happy to be done with it.

I have absolutely no clue as to my ancestry beyond about three generations. I know we have English, German and Jewish in the lines, but when or where they arrived on American soil, I have no idea. I'd like to think the Jewish part of my heritage would explain why I've always liked Jewish people and their culture, but I know it doesn't work that way. I just admire their strength, their resolve and their sheer dogged determination in the face of really terrible persecutions.

I've just never had the inclination or the patience to research all that far back. I guess my sentiments are about the same as Popeye - "I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam." Some of my ancestors could have been slaveholders for all I know. I hope not. However, if they were, I make no apologies, because they did it, not I. By the same reasoning, I can take no glory in any great thing some ancestor may have done, because they did it, not I.

Maybe one of these days I'll start digging into it, but I doubt it. For those of you who have a sterling pedigree and know it - more power to you!

Well, I'm off to catch a nap. Be blessed, everyone! --Romeena

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63573: Hey, Possum. I emailed Merri a week or so ago, but she never answered. I'm getting worried about her. Has anyone heard from her?? --Romeena

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63574:
Hey Folks

Romeena & MT Thanks for responding to the genealogy question. Romeena, I share you sentiments about the achievements and/or dubious behavior of my earlier family members. However, I do have a curiosity regarding my family. I never knew one of "blood" grandfathers and the person I knew as my grandfather was a lout. So, when I was younger and inquiring about the grandfather I never knew, I thought, why stop there? There were a whole bunch of grandpa's I didn't. And, that quest has been going on for over 30 years now. But, I knew what ya mean, I too, "yam what I yam."

Me-They-Our family history is well recorded and published also. However, trying to find some nuggets about the individuals is so much fun. Recently I purchased a letter on ebay written by a cousin during the Civil War. I have found a few family items on ebay. Another, family question I always try to find the answer to is "witch burning." Both sides of my family originate from New England and witch burning there was always in season. So far I haven't found any burners or "burnees." We did have family on both sides of the Great War.


June 24, 2008 - Msg 63575: AUH2O: Actually, there are only a relatively few (probably less than a dozen) known incidences of witch burning in New England. The vast majority of convicted "witches" were hanged. Maybe you'll get lucky and have more luck searching the gallows rather than the ash heap for your kin ;).


June 24, 2008 - Msg 63576:
MT You're correct about the number of witch burnings. I was "trying" to be a bit humorous there, sorry. But, I really do try and find any family involvement with hangings or burners.


June 24, 2008 - Msg 63577: Afternoon gang..hey possum,auh20,ro,boo...and all...Maude lets make tuna salad and crackers for lunch...and some of your slaw...lite eating today...big supper tonight....well im off to the shower then work...SPOT

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63578:
Oh, one other thing about the 60th Anniversary of the Berlin airlifts is that my dad flew a few. He said it was strange to have bombed berlin 3 years earlier and then to be helping them because of the USSR's blockade. Hitler and his ilk were smashed,but then the Russians started their terror on the german people! You may have heard also how one pilot started dropping candy bars to the kids with tiny parachutes made from hankerchiefs, as he flew over, and soon all the pilots were doing it! That started our good relationship with Germany that lasts even today.
And eventually it led to Ronald Reagan's "tear down this wall" speech! God bless America!
AUH20- was that civil war cousin Nathan Tibbs? hee
Anyone seen TOM?

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63579: "Yes ma'am, we're still holding on to Richmond."

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63580: No mollycoddlin'

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63581: "Soak it, Sarah. Soak it a lot!"

June 24, 2008 - Msg 63582: Hello Folks:
Sometimes looking up family trees is a bit scarey. Ya never know what nut ya might find there! But then again, there are some pretty nice people who have gone on before us! Keep looking up. ~New Neighbor

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63583: Well gang looks like its been a quite night on the porch...Tom?..Rev you in La still...busy here at work this afternoon..hey NN,Mdc...well Miss Sherry got the new big camper deal done...I will go with her to pick it up thu afternoon and then its to the lake for a week in style!...well I will check back in a bit to see if yall fell awake!...SPOT

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63584:
Hello porch family....the wife and I had a great day just spending together. We are still in south La so we went on a tour of the Tabasco hot sauce factory. It was pretty neat to see. It takes three years to make the sauce.

I leave early in the morning for Hempstead, Tx for a concert tomorrow night. Then in Houston for four days.

Possum....hope we're getting some of that rain in the midlands.

Spot....have fun camping brother. Hope you have great weather.

Gotta go and get some sleep. Hope I have internet service at the places I'm going to. If not, I'll catch you folks when I can.
Prayers for all our porch family!
Jesus loves you....yes HE does!

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63585: Get some rest brother Rev and motor safely..and weather should be good for us camping...we need the rain but they say in the 90"s and dry..hope to get some earley morning fishing in a few days..all the kids and miss sherry grandson are coming up Sunday thru tue and i think miss sherrys daughter-n-laws mother @ sis"s and are coming up sometime...good fun for all...theres no telling how much fule will be run through the jet skis!...gona have a BIG low country boil one night and boiled peanuts will be cooking at camp all the time!..got the horse shoes packed for play..well let me get some reports ran here at work...and find a movie..Rev the braves are in trouble!..Ga bulldogs got stomped by fres tonight but one more game, winner takes all tomorrow!...prayers and I will check babk in a bit...I sure miss Millie on my work nights she would allways be up to chat.....SPOT

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63586: Good morning everyone. Safer travels for all traveling.



June 25, 2008 - Msg 63587: Hello everyone. It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to sit on the Porch with all of you knowledgeable people about TAGS, history and current events (including GASP! TV!).

ROMEENA & Me-They: I agree with the first part of your previous post ROMEENA and M-T, I agree with the issue is democracy is scary if alot of uninformed voters go to the polls and follow the pack mentality of who is promising me the most "Federal Govt. Goodies". Hey Me-They, did your DAD'S Relatives fight for the correct side in World War I. & II. (Just Funnin').

ASA: Yes, I have a commited genalogists on both sides of my family and my Grandfather on my fathers side is who is responsible for the information that got the ladies in our family in the DAR. The SOC designation came from both sides of my family.

SPOT: What is for lunch. The Dallas area has Fudrucker's and I went to cullinary school with some guys who are now Executive Chefs for two of their restaurants. They put out a good quality product in my opinion. Good Swiss Mushroom Burger and the daughter likes their fries and deserts.

The "Dud"

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63588: New episode of Tru TV's BLACK GOLD tonight at 9:00. It is a great show and it shows the warts and all of onshore drilling. Some of the roughnecks and drillers don't know much book learning but they know how to get fossil fuel out of the ground. The money guys the own the drilling companies and production companies (Wildcatters) are a different bread. Part gamblers, accountants and have a certain something that helps them survive in the business. Pity the people who are going to try to cash in on the energy crisis and do not know what they are doing in this field. A few of my friends families were living high on the hog in the 70's and then oil went to $10 to $12 a barrel and the tax shelters were eliminated for investors. They went bankrupt quickly and it will happen again.

The "Dud"

REV: Glad to see you are enjoying the Tabasco McIlhenny Island tour. I love their relatively new Tabasco Green Pepper Sauce. It is popular in the Dallas area, but I don't see it much in restaurants in the North part of La. The best La. Hot Sauce on the market is Panola Brand Pepper Sauce made in Lake Providence La. It is owned by the Brown family. I grew up with one of the Brown boys and if you have the opportunity pickup a bottle. They have a wonderful Gourmet Red Sauce and a great Jalopena Green Pepper Sauce. I hope you and the Mrs. are doing well and spreading the word.

SPOT: You have a great time camping in your new RIG.

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63589: Different breed not bread. The Bread they like is green and folds in the pocket. The "Dud"

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63590: I just read that Daniel Yergin one of the nation's top energy experts is going to testify to Congress today on why energy is so high and that the focus on speculation is largely misguided. Mr. Yergin will join numerous other energy experts who have declared that the rise in oil prices can be explained by basic economic factors, such as the limited growth in supplies in recent years, a weakening dollar, a global surge in energy demand and a string of production disruptions in countries like Nigeria.... The "Dud"

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63591: Everyone have a great and prosperous day. I am going fishing on the Ouachita River and putting the boat in at Moon Lake. Cannot eat what I catch on this beautiful river due to Mercury contamination coming from Arkansas. They say it comes from poultry production facilities (TYSON FOODS?) but Govt. (EPA) doesn't do anything about it. This river use to have a commercial fishermen and fish markets lined the banks, but no longer, what a shame...The "Dud"

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63592: Dud lets hit Capt d"s for fish for lunch...hey M-T,ro,boo,asa and all...Tom?...can someone e-mail him?..well lt me hit the shower and get to work at 2...will holler then...prayers...SPOT

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63593: Good morning, all. Dud, to which previous post of mine do you refer? If you mean the comment about voting according to my husband's opinions, well, I looked at it this way. If I trusted him enough to marry him and link my future with his, then I guess I couldn't go too far wrong by voting with him, since I hadn't a clue of my own anyway. If I had ever had a strong opinion for a valid reason, I would have voted according to my own mind whether it agreed with him or not, but actually that never happened. I did have opinions now and then but they always were the same as his. We thought a lot alike on a lot of things. On the political front, though, I never got very involved, and it wasn't unusual for me to ask him who he was voting for, in the car on the way to the polls, and write down his answers! Then I'd vote, using my little list. If he were still here, I'd probably still be doing that, and I make no apologies for it.

As for the Louisiana hot sauce, if the Panola brand is any better than Tabasco, I'd be afraid to try it. I might just ascend to heaven right then and there.

Spot, you sure paint an attractive picture of a "camping" trip. When you mentioned the jet skis, you got my attention. I've never actually ridden a jet ski, I imagine they're a lot more difficult, but I've logged a bit of time on a seadoo, and just love those things! My son has a pair of them, big old Bombardiers, and he and I went on a long river trip on them, took all day. I'll never forget that trip. We had so much fun, and the best part was spending the time with my son. We bought boiled peanuts along the way, and they were so good! Save me some of yours, okay?

Well, guess I'd better get busy around here. Have a great day, everyone. --Romeena

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63594: Romeena my jet skis are the ones you set down on too 2 seat yamahas...fast and fun...i will get you some camping pics for the album...we sure have a blast..well just one more day till lake bound...well im at work now let me get settled in...SPOT

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63595:
Barn: "Well, old man Goss lost my suit!"
Andy: "You mean the salt and pepper?"

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63596:
"Yes, it's perfect for the dip."

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63597: Hey all! Happy Wednesday! Thanks for asking after me, M-T.

As far voting, I'm the better informed between my husband and me, and my husband has been known to write down who to vote for on the way to the polls. Kind of a role reversal of Ro's.

To my knowledge, Merri isn't in an area affected too much by the floods. I kind of know her general location and while we've had close to 20" more rainfall than normal in our area, and have a few inches of standing water in some of the ditches, I don't believe it would be enough to put her out of her home or anything. Hope she checks in soon, though, just so's we know she's okay.

As far as genealogy, a couple of members of my dad's family have done quite a bit of research and can trace our history back to the early 1700's. One of my ancestor's even lived somewhere close to your area (Carroll Co. MD), M-T, during the 1760's before moving to NC, then descendants moved on to the midwest and west coast. We have everything from Dunker preachers to lunatics in the family so it has made the findings kind of interesting.

Hope you have a dandy time on your trip, spot.

Prayers for safety and fruitful ministry, Rev.

Well, not much else going on with me, so have a great day everyone - prayers for all!

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63598: I just hope and pray that whoever becomes the next president of the United States is guided by God given wisdom...........MSC

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63599:
"You mean you don't make leg-o-lamb? Why that's Andy's favorite dish."
Who is MSC?
Hope ya all are doing good today. Count your blessings!
We have now had 13 straight days od 110 or higher. But were hanging in there.
It has been so hot that the desert lizards are applying at Gieco just ot get indoors! ha
God bless,

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63600: Hey Gang...Supper time menu:Grilled pork chops,fried taters sliced thin,fresh field peas,grilled white silver queen corn,okra,corn bread,green onions,hot peppers,peach cobbler,sweet tea....ready at 6:45 est...SPOT

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63601: Afternoon, all! It's hot here, 97 and humid. I went outside just for a few minutes, to push some fertilizer pellets into the mud around my lotus plant, and to put some algae treatment in the pond, and my shirt was wet by the time I got back in the house. The lotus is about to bloom, has a big fat bud sitting on a three-foot stalk, should open in a couple of days. So pretty.

Spot, that sounds like the same kind of seadoo my son has. His say "Bombardier" on the side, but for some reason I have the impression that they're made by Yamaha. Two-seaters, very stable, very fast, and lots of fun. If you go into the photo album, under "Sugarplum and Family Pets", you'll find a picture of me and the Plum, coming in to the dock on one of the Seadoos. She just loved to ride with me on that thing.

One day, we were zipping across the lake at about 45 mph, with her standing on the cowling in front of me, little front paws on the handlebars. Suddenly a duck flew up right in front of us, and without warning, she just leaped into the air like she thought she could catch it! The wind caught her life jacket like a sail, and lifted her up. At the speed we were traveling, I nearly ran out from under her, but it was just a reflex to reach up and grab, and I caught the strap on her life jacket and was able to pull her back down. Nearly scared me to death! From then on, I held onto the strap on the back of her jacket. Of course, if she had gone into the water, I could have gotten her, but she would have been falling from several feet in the air, and hitting the water at that speed wouldn't have been fun for her. Poor little baby couldn't swim worth shucks, that's why she wore a jacket. You can bet Starr will be wearing one, too.

Well, guess I'll go scare up something to eat. Maybe I'll go up to Subway and get a sandwich. Their chicken/bacon/Ranch sandwich is larrupin' good. Be blessed, all. --Romeena

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63602: Whooeee! Forget that sandwich! I'm gonna have supper with Spot. Can I bring Starr? She doesn't eat much, I'll just feed her from my plate. --Romeena

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63603: Evening Family:
SPOT- Can I sit next to Ro? I promise we won't have any feet fights or anything. That supper is just mouth-watering good. SPOT- you're a good cook. I made chocolate chip cookies today, so I'll just bring a couple dozen along. Thanks- Prayers for all the family off the porch for a spell. ~New Neighbor

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63604: Ro, does Starr eat baby carrots yet? And what about barking and carrying on when the mail gets delivered? I've been meaning to ask if she took after Plum that way.
- Hazel

June 25, 2008 - Msg 63605: New Neighbour you and Ro did good at supper!..Now Hazel and Asa...well thats a different story!..well im here at work till 6 am then off till next Thu!..Lake calling...recon I might hear Red?..nothing much on TV but thats ok...yall want a snickers and some milk...yea thats it a snickers and milk...back in a bit..Rev did you get your UPS pork chop plate?..TOM?..CHUCK?Lucy?..hey auh20,Boo how is your mother doing?..M-T the kids enjoying the summer break?..well let me run the reports here....SPOT

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63606: Good evening, everyone. Boy, supper sure was good, Spot. Thanks! Next time let me know what I can bring, and I'll do it.

Hi, Hazel. No, Starr doesn't seem to care for carrots. I got her a bag of the baby ones like Plum loved so much, gave her one and she just stood and held it in her mouth, like "So what am I supposed to do with this?" Finally she just dropped it, and walked away. So, I got her a bag of the little matchstick-sized carrot sticks, and she did the same thing. Just doesn't seem to like carrots. Now ice? That's a different matter. She comes running when she hears me at the ice maker. She can't handle a big cube, but I keep a little bowl next to the fridge and when I go to get ice for myself, I switch over to crushed and get her a little bit in her bowl. She stands and crunches and plays with it until she eats it all. She loves it, and Plum totally ignored ice. As for the mail, oh yes, she likes to run and grab a piece of mail, and will carry it into the living room and pull little shreds off if I don't catch her, but she doesn't bark all that much. Plum would bark in great shrieking waves, and any mail she could nab would be shredded to pieces on the spot. Part of the differences are due to Starr's tiny mouth, very tiny teeth and just not being able to chew up a carrot or shred mail too well. She really is very small. She's all there, and it all works, but she's still only 4 1/2 pounds and I think that's going to be about it. She's the sweetest, most loving little thing, and I love her very much. I still miss the Plum so terribly, though. She was one in a million. A little companion like she was comes along maybe once in a lifetime. What a personality she had!

I'm concerned about the porchsters who are AWOL. We're missing a bunch of folks, and I sure do wish they'd come back home. I know we've been having a lot of serious conversation lately, and perhaps that has put some people off, but these are serious times, and it's inevitable that we'll be discussing it. If that's the problem with anybody, well, come on back and help us lighten things up a bit. You're missed! --Romeena

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63607: I agree Romeena we have some crew of the porch missing!..But anyway "GET UP" porch breakfast will be eggs your way country ham,hashbrowns,grits,bisquits and gravy,coffee,milk,oj...ready at 6:45...well im off at 6 this morning and home for a nap and take Miss Sherry to get her new camper and home to stock it and off for the camping trip at about noon tomorrow!..boat is already at the slip for the summer and will take the jet skis and we are set...will holler before we go..want have any internet at the campsite so I will be off the porch for a while after Fri morning...Romeena you thing Starr will ride the jet skis?...Otis is just to big to carry camping but he loves to go to the lake..Mom and Pop will take good care of the animals while we are gone...and the garden also...well let me get the mroning reports ran and things buttoned up here for the morning shift..prayers ..SPOT

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63608: Good morning everyone. Just a minute this morning, but I'll stop back for a longer visit later.

SPOT: The kids are having a swell time.

AFD: Where in Carroll County?


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63609: Hello Everyone:

Had a not so prosperous fishing trip on the beautiful Ouachita River. I didn't catch anything and it was windy and the weather service scared us all with some of those not so accurate severe thunderstorm warnings. Got off the river after a couple of hours, but it is good to see nature sometimes without the hustle and bustle of the city. Watched BLACK GOLD last night. It looks like the producers are going to concentrate on just the drillers and roughnecks with the production, drilling owners and the Tool Pushers in the background. If any body cares the Tool Pusher is the main guy and the brains on a working rig. the drillers don't make a major move without the Tool Pusher's OK. The show is making the driller out to be the boss of the rig. I have worked onshore and beleive me, the Drillers are real experienced guys and the life line but not the movers and shakers. They had to show the typical Texas & La. crew,gun shoot with beer. Yea it happens, ask Vice-President Cheney.

ROMEENA: On your previous post I agree with you on voting your way with the guidance of others. My father was a big influence on me. Tabasco is a very hot sauce using now South American Peppers mostly that are called Tabasco that they transplanted. La. Hot Sauce is a milder Cayenne Pepper sauce that is used more for flavoring instead of masking the taste.

My Grandfather was a BLUE DOG DEMOCRAT who I tried to persuade at a tender age to vote for GOLDWATER over JOHNSON. He called the Republican party by the old southern term of the Black Republicans. I do vote Democratic when I like their stands on the issues. I love Dem. Sen. Mary Landrieu of La. who was the only Dem. in the Senate to vote against the Windfall Tax on oil companies. Former Sen. John Breaux and Sen. J. Bennet Johnston were both Dem.s from La. who the whole state backed for years including yours truly.

SPOT: Count me in for breakfast.

The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63610: Auh20: I read from someone's previous post that you were a GOLDWATER man. Correct? No William Jefferson Blythe IV. (BILLS birth Name) Clinton in Unity, New Hampshire for the Clinton/OBama Love Fest. ...The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63611: ROMEENA & Others: I will try to lighten up in my comments and try not run anyone off with such seriousness....The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63612: You're not a Huey Long man, are you DUD ;).


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63613: DUD: You probably are aware that until after the second world war the Communist Party was the third largest political party in the U.S. It's heyday was in the 1930s, when the party won a number of elections. One of it's strongholds was Louisianna.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63614:
Dud-Yep, I am a big fan of Barry Goldwater. Al Franken, of all people, has told of an amusing perspective involving the election of '64. Franken, "There were people who said: if you vote for Goldwater, the Vietnam War will escalate, and we'll have 450,000 American troops over there. And a friend of mine voted for Goldwater, and that's exactly what happened."
Now, I didn't agree with all of Barry's stances but I still believe if he had won in 1964 the world would have been the better for it. However, I do believe the world still benefited simply because he ran and articulated Conservative beliefs.

Barry Goldwater: "Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have.

Spot-I'm with Me-They, that breakfast sounds good.

MT- Hey there, comrade.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63615: Me-They: I am not a Huey Long Man. Even though he was from the North Southern Part of the State (Winnfield) people in the North were not Kingfish supporters. One of my good friend's grandfather owned both Shreveport and Monroe daily newspapers and his Long fued was legendary thru the state. It was why for years until the late GOV. John McKeithen from Columbia (Who I have eaten crawfish with 3 times) that North La. got any of the states promised Goodies. I am aware of the communist party in La. (Mainly in NOLA). see Oswald.....The second KKK KLAN was the unofficial party of the South from 1915 to 1944. The Third Klan from 1945 to present is currently made up of misfits, criminals and a disgrace to the Confederate Battle Flag.....The (not every man is a King) "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63616: Hey there, guys. I was just kidding there, DUD.

I have to say praise the Lord that the Klan is a pathetic shadow of it's 1920s self.

Regarding the flag commonly known today as the "Confederate flag," it really is anachronistic; the flag as it is displayed today didn't exist during the war. It is amalgamation of the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (it was not the official battle flag of the entire Confederate army), which was square, and the Naval Jack flown for about two years by the Confederate Navy, though the colors of that flag were slightly different. Even the "Stars and Bars" nickname it is called today refers to another flag.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63617: SPOT: I drive buy a place that sells fresh boiled & roasted peanuts. I stopped by today to by a couple of pounds of his roasted and he says he only sells the boiled to people who didn't grow up in NE. La. and we are roasted peanut people. When I worked in Dallas, most of the people there did not know what boiled peanuts were. All the concession stands in this area only carry roasted, "It must be a Georgia Thing". (Just Funnin')....The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63618: Me-They---- I beg your pardon on this issue, you are correct in some respects. My G.G. Grandfather fought for the Army of Tenn. and he was captured and sent to a prison of war camp in Illinois. He made a Confederate Battle Flag in camp which I still own, out of a stick, dyed fibers and a stick...see following:::

The design was originally made by South Carolina Congressman William Porcher Miles with the intent to be the first national flag, but it was rejected by the Confederate government. Some critics supposedly scoffed at the design, saying it looked too much like crossed suspenders. While the square battle flag was widely used, the rectangular upside down and, the oblong version was also used by some army units, including the Army of Tennessee as their battle flag from 1864-1865. After General Joseph Johnston took command of the Army of Tennessee from Braxton Bragg, he ordered its army-wide implementation to improve morale and avoid confusion.

See Following Site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#The_Battle_Flag

The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63619: Do ya think Goober was named after that great "War between the States" song, "GOOBER PEAS"? Oh how delicious, eatin' GOOBER PEAS".
The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63620: Then I stand corrected!

I believe (though am not certain) that goober peas are another name (African, I believe) for peanuts. And, Goober certainly was a nut!


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63621: I just looked it up and yes, goober peas are boiled peanuts and the term "goober" is African in origin.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63622: I used to sing the "GOOBER PEA's" song to my daughter when she was young. She still doesn't get the joy of TAGS and likes to watch NICK, DISN & TOON. I am still hoping for her....The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63623: Has anyone "I hope not", done a fictional account of the TAGS gangs family history? Maybe a before and after TAGS even after the made for TV movies...after her death, Margaret Mitchell's estate had it done after "Gone With the Wind" with tragic consequences...The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63624: Well it is time to go over to the Lady Friend's to cook dinner. Guess who is cookin'. Yep it is me. I am gonna' bring some of my Spiked Venison Smoked Ham, Emeril's Andouille Sausage Bites, Turnip Greens with Texas 10/14 Onions, Hominy Casserole & Jalopena Corn Bread Muffins with Blue Belle Non-Sugar Added Bananna Split Ice Cream for desert....enjoy the evening people....The "Dud"

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63625: M-T, the paperwork I have says that my GGGGG grandfather lived on 60 acres in the Meadow Branch of Great Pipe Creek. I couldn't find a Great Pipe Creek on the map, so I am assuming it is now called Big Pipe Creek?? - Do you happen to know the location of Meadow Branch? My GGGG grandfather had three of his siblings born near Frederick, from 1759 - 1763. They moved to NC in 1764 and my GGGG grandfather was born there in 1769.

It's hard to believe our girls are going to be seeing the big "2" in just a few weeks. Time flies. Anything new and exciting going on in Veda's world? Reagan is quite the monkey, climbs on EVERYTHING, and going to be my tomboy from what I can tell so far.

Well, not much else to say. Have a great afternoon everyone and prayers for all.

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63626: Yes, AFD, I know exactly where it is! I work in Frederick, but live in CC--about 15 minutes from where you are talking about. I'd almost bet that your realtives were "Brethren" or Dunkards. True?

They are getting big quick, ain't they? Veda is a card, I tell you. And very strong-willed. She loves it outside and also is a good climber. She loves her baby dolls, but I'd bet she ends up a tomboy, too. It helps that she spends the day playing with her (all-boy) almost 5-year-old brother.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63627: Oh, AFD, if you can find Westminster or New Windor on a map of the county it is just north.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63628: AFD: Another thing, FYI, in case you are doing more research, CC did not exist until 1836. Before that, part of it was part of Frederick County and part part of Baltimore County. The Meadow Branch part was in Frederick County, so any official business transacted there would have been recorded in the county seat of Frederick.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63629: Thanks for all your help, M-T. You are correct about the Dunkard (or is it Dunker?). My GGGGG grandfather was installed in the Dunkard Ministry around 1760 there. I did notice on my ppwk that is says "Frederick (now Carroll County, MD)".

Sounds like we should get our girls together, don't it? I'm sure they'd have a "high" old time. Are you working on potty training yet?


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63630: Veda has shown an interest in it, and usually informs us, but typically after the fact. The Mrs. doesn't think she's quite there yet. I'm sure they wqould have a good time.

That area of CC was swarming with Brethren, and their history is pretty well documented. FYI, they formed some of the first anti-slavery organizations in Maryland. If you're ever interested, I bet the Historical Society of Carroll County has some family information. If your ancestor's surname happens to be Roop/Rupp/Royer, you've hit the jackpot.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63631: Actually my ancestor's surname is Stutzman/Stutzmann. Is there much info there that you know of?

Reagan seems to be about the place Veda is in regards to PT. I've gotten her to go a time or two, but that's about it.


June 26, 2008 - Msg 63632:
Hey to all!
Some missing porchsters may be due to vacations.
I will be on one soon myself.
Watched the dvd version of The Pageant" last night. The one where Clara cant play Miss Mayberry, so Aunt bee does.
At the beginning, barney is telling opie about tongue twisters, and Andy comes out with
"rubber baby buggy bumpers." so funny!
Only 1206 here todasy!!
"All hail to theee Miss Mayberry."

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63633:
Oops, I should have proofread! That's 106, tho the past week has often felt like a blast furance! ha

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63634: whateveer happened to Josie LLoyd?

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63635: Who's Josie Lloyd? Any kin to Malloy? Who's Malloy? --Romeena

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63636: Josie Lloyd played Juanita Pike (the mayors daughter) and she also was Lydia Crosswight in a few episodes. I'm not sure, but I think she died several years ago. I'll have to do some research...
- Hazel

June 26, 2008 - Msg 63637:
Hazel-How ya doing tonight? I hope all is well with you.

Andy: "I wish we had a psychiatrist in town; I bet Barney would be a real study."


June 27, 2008 - Msg 63638: Hazel, please let me know what you find out about Josie Lloyd. Thank You

June 27, 2008 - Msg 63639: Good morning everyone.

AFD: I'll check on it. We have an archives and research center right here and I'll give it a few minutes later today. If you want to see if the HSCC has any info, they have a website with contact info for their research library.

"Flow gently sweet afton..."


June 27, 2008 - Msg 63640: AFD: I did a very cursory search for the name here and didn't find anything. However, as I've said before, genealogical research is not my forte. I did find quite a bit about the "Stultz" family, who date back to that period and still live in the same area. The similarity of the names may be related; sometimes different branches spelled names differently or changed it. Anyway, if you are really interested you should request a investigatory search (which should be free) to see if there is enough information to warrant more intensive research (which they may charge a fee for). If you don't get anything there, let me know and I will put you in touch with our research center.


June 27, 2008 - Msg 63641:
AFD-I hope ya don't mind but a did a very cursory search on the name and placed you mention above and found this web site, with the name of JACOB STUTZMAN. Big Pipe Creek, is also mention. The time period is mid 1700's.



June 27, 2008 - Msg 63642:
AFD-I also found this PDF file with many Stutzman and Dunkard references, during the same time period. (if you have dial-up, like I do, it may take a couple of minutes to open but it looks like a lot of information)



June 27, 2008 - Msg 63643: Good Morning Everyone:

I think SPOT is on vacation, so breakfast is being served on the Porch. Ham, Grits & Shrimp Carolina Style, centercut Bacon, Eggs your way, Fancy French Toast with Non-Sugar added Syrup and Maple syrup for you non-diabetics. Pepsi Max and Fresh Oragnge Juice to drink.

Brought all the fixin's for dinner over to the Lady Friend's house and had to explain to her what a Deer Ham is. Ham is Pork she says...she liked it, it is smoked by a friend of mine who has access to plenty of Venison. Had some Fried Back Strap also. I am glad I love to cook because the only thing the Lady Friend can make is "reservations".

The "Dud"

June 27, 2008 - Msg 63644: I see that there is a Dud Wash as a moderator on the Miss Crump's Chat Room. Just to let you know, I am not him and he is not me...The "Dud"

June 27, 2008 - Msg 63645: Well gang its goodbuy for now...headed to the lake till Wed..Maude you and Dud feed this bunch and dont forget to send Rev a plate..yall say a prayer for us...love ya porch...SPOT

June 27, 2008 - Msg 63646: By the way, here in La. we call the Venison Rump Roast a Ham and the Venison Loin is called the Backstrap (Filets, Chops & Roasts). Is this just us or do others call these cuts this way?..... The "Dud"