August 14, 2011 - Msg 85065: Hello everyone. I've been on a long retreat into the mountains between Mayberry and the Darling cabin. Will try to come back in on a regular basis as soon as I can.

Asa - I hear you bawkin' at me.

Ro - Sorry to see of the suicide in your family. I havent read everyone's posts, but that did catch my eye as I scrolled.

Best to all,
John Masters

August 14, 2011 - Msg 85066: How about that? I've been gone so long and wound up sweepin' the porch.

Aint it a dinger?

John Masters

August 14, 2011 - Msg 85067: It surely is, John Masters, it surely is. (A dinger, that is)
- Hazel

August 14, 2011 - Msg 85068:
Howdy porch family.....pray you all had a great Lord's day.

G-F.....yep I got the dust out....didn't even have to gargle with cheerwine:)

I went out to the motorhome yesterday to get something out of the freezer and it was hot as a oven. Everything in the refrig and freezer was ruined. I called "the man" but no hope for it. Ordered another one today....and man are those things HIGH....$1300 dollars and that was on sale. Life and times of a recording

John Masters....good to see ya back buddy in your rocker.

Well race fans....we'll have to wait till tomorrow.

Tom....where you at?...we all miss you. Check in so we'll know you're ok.

You all have a great night.
Love and prayers!

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85069: Morning Porch. Another week about to start.

Boy, we had an elecrtical storm come through here last night that was wild. Lightning, thunder, rain. Nocked the power out. At one point I heard some noise out back so I went looking to see what it was. With no lights on I did my best Rob Petrie imitation when I tripped over the ottoman in the family room. Anyway, just the wind making the noise.

Hey John, good to see you. Stand up buddy. I need to see if you layed any eggs. lol Thanks for sweeping btw. It was getting dusty here.

Sorry about your loss Rev. Hope you larnyx spray wasn't in that freezer.

Boy Boo and Ro. Them stories about the racial tension are so sad. Hard to think such things went on. And although a small minority, I'm sure there are still some who have animosity. I do get upset though when I see and hear about folks who wish to stir up ill feelings about things that happened 50 years ago, for their own gain. We are seeing a bit more of that now and it worries me. What is going on in London could easily spread to here, and there are some who would love to see that. There was already a hint of it that took place last week in Wisconsin. I have my own theroies as to where things might be headed, but I'll keep them to myself. I hope they remain just that, my theories and don't come to reality.

Well the strom brought the temps down a tad here, but jumped the humidity up. Nasty! I don't know how you folks deal with that.

Better get rolling.

Y'all have a blessed day.


August 15, 2011 - Msg 85070: Nocked? Knocked! Who stole my "K"?lol


August 15, 2011 - Msg 85071: Good morning, all. I agree, Asa, there are those who keep stirring the pot over things that should be left in the past, and my impression is that they do it for their own gain. We have a local politician who is a master at that. When things get too peaceful, he makes a speech or picks a fight that brings it all to the surface once more. Yes, there are still whites who harbor prejudice, everyone knows that. We all know someone, and we just pity them and try to love them anyway. As I said, it's going to take at least another generation. Most of the older folks in the black community are content to let it go, but the young ones will take up the banner now and then. It's what young people do - gotta protest something, and that old issue is just made to order. They're the ones that the likes of Farrakhan and Jackson and our own Dallas-bred J.W. Price appeal to, to keep the pot boiling. There's money to be made there, and votes to get, and they're not about to let the issue die. OK, I've said enough, but it comes down to this - God commanded us to love one another. Why on earth can't we just do that?

Yes, where IS Tom? I'm getting worried about him. Tom, check in! Don't make us put out an APB for you!

REV, that's a shame about the fridge/freezer in the motorhome. I would imagine you depend pretty heavily on that unit - restaurant food gets tiresome day after day. When you're away from home, it seems like it would be important to establish a home-like routine to the best of your ability. You do your concert, then go "home" and relax, and that would include having meal-type food, or snacks and drinks, available in the motorhome. Yep, you had to replace that thing. I'm sorry it was so pricey!

Well, gotta run. Eddie is here, I need to go pay him, and then Eloise and I may go mousing around a little bit. Blessings, friends! --Romeena

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85072: Good Monday Porch, stopping by for a visit.been a busy week end on my end of the porch. getting Patrick ready for his move to Cookeville this week end. We are moving him down on Friday. He will come back with us and then offically go down on Monday the 22nd.

My friends surgery has been scheduled for August 26th.

Rev, it is probably a good things you bought a new unit from the Man in Mt. Pilot. If you would have fixed the old one it probably would of not lasted much longer and the only thing you could of stored in it would be trouble.:)

Better get busy, I am taking the rest of the week off to help Patrick get things together and I also thought it would be good quality time to spend with him.

Lunch will be: grilled cheese sandwhiches with fresh sliced tomatoes, chips, pickles and brownies. tea or lemonade to drink.

Ya'll have a good day.
Big Maude

Big Maude

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85073:
Ah Maude, the kid is going off to college! Wow.
Hope all goes well.
REV- I dont know much about motorhomes, but I thought that onece you stop the thing, that things like the fridge stop too, or do you keep a generator running? Just curious. I guess I better by another CD from ya! ha
Hope all are well. Interesting straw vote in I-o-WAY, and yet another jumps into the fray!
Prayers for all,

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85074: Hey gang!....Great day of golf with my buddys!..hey possum,Ro,Mdc,Rev,Lucy,Big maude,Tom and all....Maude thanks for lunch...I will get supper...grilled steaks baked taters and maude slaw....back in just a bit....SPOT

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85075: Good evening, porch! MDC, I think when REV's motorhome is stopped, everything does stop unless he connects to a power source, which I'm sure he does at home. I think when he's at our church, he connects to a power source where he parks, next to our bus garage. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a generator as well though, for emergencies. He has this traveling thing down to a fine point.

Had a good visit with my daughter by phone today. They're getting through the tragic occurrence in the family, one day at a time. My son-in-law's sister, the widow of the man who killed himself, is naturally going through all the "what-ifs" that you would expect, but she's a strong woman, my daughter has been able to offer her some good counsel, and I think they'll come out of it okay, eventually. It's just a very hard thing, one of those one-day-at-a-time things.

Well, guess I'll go play with Toye Starr. She has been alone all afternoon - Eloise and I met Brittney and the boys, and shopped for school clothes for the them. Good grief, kids' clothes are high! And we weren't shopping the trendy stores, either, or buying the over-priced stuff. Eloise and I split a bill for $354, and all we really got was about three pair of simple shorts and four t-shirts for each boy. Ridiculous!

Blessings, friends! --Romeena

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85076: "for the them?" Good grief. That started out to be "for the boys" and got changed, but I forgot to delete "the". Oh well. --Romeena

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85077: Thanks for the report on Heather's sister-in-law, Ro. Sounds like things are going as well as can be hoped for. Bless their hearts.

Well, REV, glad you called "the man" and didn't bother with Gomer. ;)

Been so tired today I just finally got around to posting a comment. I have been having a little dizziness off and on and i decided to try some medicine that the doc gave mom for dizziness. I took half a pill, figuring maybe it would help like it does Ro when she gets a spell of dizziness. Well, it knocked the dizziness but it made me so tired all day I couldn't see straight! Wonder how I would hav felt if i had taken the full dose?! I took two short naps today in between trying to move around like a zombie and do some chores. Tomorrow should be better and I'll bet i sleep like a baby tonight.

Ro, I know what you mean about the price of kid's clothes! I am very happy that I don't have to buy school clothes this year since we are homeschooling both kids. I will also be saving on tuition and the curriculum was not expensive.

Well, eyelids are getting droopy again...


August 15, 2011 - Msg 85078: Yes, Asa, it is terrible (the racial problems we spoke of). What is really terrible is that just a few years ago, I worked with a very sweet Mormon woman who, bless her heart, was suffering in a bad marriage to a man who refused to show affection and thought s#x was only for procreation. One thing she believed and didn't doubt, though, is that black people bore "the mark of Cain" and were inferior to white people. She shared more with me about her religion that she was supposed to share, I think, but it was eye-opening. I found it so hard to believe that people in this century would still believe that but some do. She wasn't a member of the FLDS or some other fundamentalist Mormon sect, just plain LDS, as I recall.

Not trying to bash anyone's religion and she certainly could be the exception to the rule, concerning Mormons. I know the LDS changed after "The Manifesto" in which the church was forbidden to practice polygamy any longer. I find it interesting, though, that although they are followers of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young (who practiced polygamy and taught that the only way to not be "damned" was to practice plural marriage) and yet they now condemn the practice of polygamy. At least the Fundamental LDS is staying true to the teaching of the original prophets of Mormonism.


August 15, 2011 - Msg 85079:
Hello porch family...I can't believe I just lost a post that was getting ready to send. That makes me so angry. are so right..I do depend on the fridge so much on the road.

MDC....the fridge/freezer is a 2-way unit which means when I'm not plugged into a power source it runs on my propane tank. As soon as I plug into a power source it automatically switches to electricity. So while I'm driving down the road or just sitting somewhere it's on propane. And it could run for months on a tank of propane....doesn't take much. But by it being 2-way is what makes it so pricey. Ro mentioned a generator...I do have a 400watt gen that I can run if I'm parked somewhere with no electric and I need the roof a/c, tv, microwave or something like that. But as for as the fridge, it's on all the time.

OK now that you all have had your motorhome lesson....ya ready to go on the road with me? I've got all the TAGS dvds in there so we're ready to roll.....and you'll get to see Ro in October....can't beat that:) Of course I may turn you into a roady hauling

Asa....the larnyx spray is me me...see it's still in tune:)

Wild finish for the NASCAR boys today.....I'm not a huge road course fan but it did have a good finish.

Spot....didn't know you were a golf pro. That's one sport I never got hooked on. Afraid to try cause I would probably like it and I just don't have the time.

Well better get off here. You all have good night.
Love and prayers!

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85080: Boo, just for what it's worth - I've heard that "mark of Cain" business before, and it's a belief that's held by lots of people, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof. Some notions die hard, and have a way of permeating society, kind of like the hoax emails we all get. Where DO those things get started, anyway?? --Romeena

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85081: Me again - I wish I had a nickel for every time I've heard someone say that Baptists believe you can't go to heaven unless you've actually been baptized - and that's simply not true. The Bible teaches that we are to be baptized - that part is true - but only AFTER we have been saved! It's an outward sign, it's not the saving act. It's what Christ did on the cross, and our faith and trust in that sacrifice, that saves. Baptism just says "I believe." That's all. Still, all my life I've heard people say "You Baptists think no one is going to heaven but you, because you've been "dunked". Again - not true. --Romeena

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85082: Yep, Spot, nothin' better than a game out on the 'ol links.
Rev, your education was worth every penny.
- Hazel

August 15, 2011 - Msg 85083: Ooops, you snuck in on me, Ro. I agree, each religion seems to have its own thing. I was raised in a Lutheran church, and we were taught about the Trinity. Then as an adult I switched to an interdemoninational church. When I first started going there in a Sunday school class I mentioned something about the Trinity, and was quickly corrected. They didn't believe that, said it was never mentioned in the bible anywhere. Same thing with Baptism. I was taught that the earlier one I'd had as a baby in the Lutheran church didn't really count, and I needed to come forward as an adult believer to be baptized. (which I did) It never really made much sense to me. Seems like God knows that the bible can be interpreted differently, and won't hold it against someone for the way they were taught, or raised. I believe it was about my early 30's that I first really started questioning and trying to figure out what I really believed in, in my heart.
- Hazel

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85084: How interesting that you would post these observations right now, Hazel. I'll explain why in a minute. First, in response to your comments, I have only one answer. John 3:16. That's pretty much all that is required. That's the cake. The rest has been applied, like icing. Every church, every denomination, seems to add their own spin, as you said. Verses are taken out of context, interpretations are biased, sometimes interpretations are rooted in misinformation. A Methodist minister once told me that Baptists were wrong to practice baptism by immersion, because Jesus was sprinkled. I asked him how he knew that, and he informed me that he had seen the Jordan, and it was too shallow to allow for immersing someone, therefore Jesus had to be sprinkled! I refrained from asking him if he had seen the whole river, and if he was certain it hadn't changed a little in 2,000 years. Anyway, all of these things can lead to strange aberrations in church practices, but according to God's word, only one thing is needed - faith in Jesus Christ. That's all. The rest is fluff. And that's my personal interpretation, naturally.

Now as to what I referenced at first. I just finished watching what turned out to be one of the saddest TV programs I've seen in a long time. I'm sure everyone knows who Dr. Stephen Hawking is - probably one of the most brilliant scientific minds of our century, yet confined in a body that is immobile, except for his eyes. He communicates through some sort of extremely high-tech device that somehow seems to convert his very thoughts into words. Don't ask me how it works - I said HE was smart, not me.

Anyway, the whole hour-long show (entitled "Curiosity" and shown on the Science channel) was his musings on the universe, creation, the workings of it all, the origins - all seeking to answer the question - Is there a God? Was there a Creator? Through the whole thing, he seemed to be leaning toward finally acknowledging the existence of God, which would have been wonderful, since he is a known atheist, or at best an agnostic.

At the very end, he lowered the boom. He is not an agnostic, because that translates as "One who does not know." He is an atheist. He summed it all up when he finally led us back to the moment of the "Big Bang", which according to him, was not just the beginning of the universe, it was the beginning of time. His conclusion is that if there was no time before the Bang, then there could have been no Creator, because there was no time in which he could have done the creating. Now, how's that for high-dollar science? I am so disappointed, and feel so sad for him. He even went so far as to say that he concludes that this life is all there is, there is no Heaven, no existence after this one, this life is all we have, and for this life he is supremely grateful. To whom, exactly, is he grateful? I just have to ask.

Incidentally, this program will be repeated on the Science channel. Check your guides, and try to catch it if you can. It's fascinating, because all the things he used as proof that there is no divine design just seemed to me to do exactly the opposite. There's that "interpretation" again, I suppose, but you know what? I like mine better. I think I'm happier than Stephen Hawking, even if I'm not as smart. I think I'm happier than he would be, even if he could walk and talk. I feel so sorry for him, and it has nothing to do with his physical condition.

Blessings! --Romeena

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85085: Oh, regarding those interdenominational folks who so confidently corrected you regarding the Trinity. Actually, I think they were right when they said the Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. I don't know for sure, but I really don't think the word itself is there. I think that's something that developed over the ages, as a term of convenience perhaps, to reference the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Trinity most definitely is taught in the Bible, it just wasn't called by that name. Again - people putting their own questions and spin on things, rather like the Amish who refuse to use a telephone or a car because the Bible doesn't mention them! Well, of course it doesn't - they weren't invented yet! That those church people totally missed the existence of the Trinity because it wasn't so named in the Bible just demonstrates the shallowness of their spiritual connection.

I think when it comes to choosing a church, one should visit, watch and listen, and pray. Then listen to God. If something seems a little off, it probably is, and you should then go somewhere else. Not all churches, affiliated or not, are sanctioned by God. Look at old Fred Phelps and his "Westboro Baptist Church." If those people are Baptists, then I'm a kangaroo. They're not Christians, either. The Bible says a Christian will be known by the fruit he or she produces, and all those people produce is pain and grief. They're a sad little gang of deluded people, being led by an old demon with a private axe to grind. I'm quite sure that you and I would feel the vibes when we entered the door, and would turn and run. One of the gifts God gives us is called "discernment of spirits" and that has nothing to do with the supernatural. It simply means that we will know and recognize the people of God, and likewise, those who are not genuine will be revealed to us as well.

Well, enough of that. Catch that program about Stephen Hawking if you can, folks. Maybe we should all pray for him, that God will help him to see the truth before it's too late. --Romeena

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85086: Morning all. Hope the new day finds you well.

Hey Ro, that is sad about Hawkings beliefs.... or lack there of I guess. It just goes to show there is a difference between smarts and wisdom. Not meaning to diminish him at all (as if I could) but Faith in a Supreme Being requires more than a worldly approach. At least thats my thinking. Gods ways are not mans ways. But man has a hard time with that, most of the time it seems.
Ro, You give wonderful advice about choosing a church. Watch, listen, and pray. I believe if your prayer is sincere, and you are willing to humble yourself and submit to Gods desires, He will lead and direct you in all things.

Boo, your blood pressure ain't high is it? How come you're dizzy? You got something we can loosen? :)

Big Maude, I pray your friends surgery on the 26th will go well and all the cancer will be removed. I pray she will have a complete and quick recovery.

Hazel, I bet the garden is in full production about now for you. I picked my first corn of the year Saturday. Oh mercy, they say there are no athiests in fox holes. I say there ain't none at my dinner table either when they bite in to this sweet delicious corn on the cob. It is proof of a Devine being in my book. lol

Well would love to stay and chat more but I gotta get rolling.

Prayers for all.


August 16, 2011 - Msg 85087: Could you please send me some corn, Asa? The corn around here so far leaves a lot to be desired.
- Hazel

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85088: Hazel, Trade ya some CORN for TATERS, the Ohio corn is GREAT this year! Goober-Fife.........

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85089:
Hey Folks

Busy summer here, Good, Bad, and Ugly.

Ro- Couldn't agree more, let's shake our heads a bit, but pray pray pray.

Asa-If you're passing corn around I take one with butter and a bit of salt...I know...I know!

These times may seem stressful but I know my Dad would not believe how much things have improved. He passed in '78.

I do not for a minute believe the end is nigh.


August 16, 2011 - Msg 85090:
Since we're talking about religion, can i talk about POLITICS!? haha
Seriously, just wondering what you Texans think of perry.
REV- thanks for the lesson. Of course that begs the question, how does propane "cool"?, but I'll Google that one!
BOO- taking another's Rx?? Isn't that a big NO-NO? Please dont take the dizziness lightly, get thee to ole doc Andrews!
Prayers for the folks of Indy where that stage collapsed, and prayers for all you wonderful folk too!

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85091: MDC, thanks for your concern, MDC, but it is a med I am very familiar with. I just had extensive lab work done and my blood pressure is really good.

Good to see you Auh2o. don't stay away so long.


August 16, 2011 - Msg 85092: I'm repeating myself, MDC...!


August 16, 2011 - Msg 85093:
Howdy porch family....just a quick check in.

Ro....good thoughts on that subject.

Gotta back later tonight.
Love and prayers!

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85094: Good afternoon, porch! Hey, auh2o, it's good to see you. Don't be such a stranger.

MDC, to answer your question, my personal jury is still out with regard to Perry. It will depend on who the other choices are. I'm not one who will vote for a Texan just because he's a Texan. I want to see some substance first. In Perry, I see some positives, and I see some negatives. I just don't know. However, I don't see a whole lot of wondrous things in the other potential candidates either, so again - I just don't know. One thing I will say now though, without reservation. Unless The Antichrist comes, identifies himself and runs on the Republican ticket, I will not be voting for the sitting president. That should come as no surprise to anyone who knows me. In the interest of porch policy, I'll not go into the whys and wherefores, but how I vote, brother, is my business, so I can reveal my choice if I want to.

I don't understand a propane fridge/freezer either, MDC. I can remember when there were a few gas-powered refrigerators in people's homes, and I never understood that. Same situation. For that matter, I don't understand how an electric fridge works, and I have only a rudimentary grasp of the function of a light switch. I can start an IV line in a vein the size of a spider's leg, though, for whatever that's worth. (heehee)

Well, I'm off to take a nap. It's nearly three, I have to be up at 5:30 to get ready for work, so it won't be much of a nap, but it will help. Blessings, friends! --Romeena

August 16, 2011 - Msg 85095:
Hello porch family....had a lot going on today...but thank the Lord I got it all pretty much done.

Well Ro and MDC.....I'll be honest with you....I have no idea how the propane fridge works....all I know is it gets When I was in Maine last month, I went to a camp on a lake. They have no electricity without the gen running. But I noticed they also had a propane full size refrigerator. Again...don't ask me how it works:)

I think I'll go in here and put on a tags dvd and sip on a cup of green tea. Sounds good.....ya'll have a good night and sleep tight.
Love and prayers!

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85096: Good Morning Porch!!,,,gosh just been so busy around the dog house..And yea Rev no golf Pro but love to play when I can afford it...and yea the Glen was a good race...Kyle now in the points lead...hey Romeena,Tom,Hazel,possum,asa,mdc,Boo,auh20 and all....lets had to I-Hop this morning on Boo and I....Boo I will pick up a news paper...SPOT

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85097: Mornin' y'all- asking for some prayers. I've got some "stuff" going on & could use all the prayers & good thoughts y'all can offer.
Thanks, friends-love to all.
possum under a rock

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85098: Morning Porchters.

MDC, I had the same question about Perry a while back also. He sure talks a good talk, but I do have some worries about some past things he has done. And past involvement on the Gore campaign? Huh? That was over 20 years ago I admit, but still...??? But as Ro has said, it would have to be someone really bad to get the GOP nod to cause me not to vote for him/her. And even then I would not vote for "the one". I'd just have to sit this one out I guess. Happily every candidate out there I have some likes about. Some more thn others. I heard yesterday Chris Christie is now considering a run. Boy if that happens I think I'd be pretty thrilled. He has impressed me so far. But be assured, whoever gets the nomination will be under the microscope of both the MSM and the current regime. And thats fine if the MSM had a level playing field. But they don't. The double standard they exhibit is remarkable.

Well I know a bit about A/C systems. Not a lot about propane run units though. It's all about the heating and cooling of refrigerents, and how they interact under pressure and heat. Propane heats ammonia, that then changes its state and moves into the conditioned area to "remove heat from the air". A/C is a bit odd because the premise is not that its cooling air, but rather removing heat from existing air. In a traditional a/c system it is done through compressing the refrigerent, creating a change in the condition of the coolant and then passing through coils where it picks up the heat from the air passing through it. and then releasing that super heated air out into the outside area. That in turn changes the coolant back into a liquid form where it is compressed and the whole process is repeated. It's really quite a cool thing to try and understand. (pun intended) :)

Hey Auh2o. Good to see you buddy. You no doubt know more about Christie than I do. What is your thoughts? Perfect, no. But then who of us are? If I'm waiting for the perfect candidate to run it's gonna be a long wait.... cause I have no intention of throwing my hat in the ring. LOL

Well headed to the big city today. Got some business there to attend to. Then most likely stop at Sizzler on the way home and hit their salad bar. Don't care for their steaks much, but I do like the salad bar.

Later gang.


August 17, 2011 - Msg 85099: You snuck in on me Possum. But it is my Honor to include you on my prayer list. Consider it done.


August 17, 2011 - Msg 85100: Good morning Porch!

How is everyone doing? Kids started school on Monday. So, so, so tired! Starting physical therapy on ankle and back next week. Looking for a car as mine was totaled. I think it's a quick update.

John Masters-sounds fun!
Big Maude-thanks for the vittles!
Romeena-What a mess! I hope that your daughters family can heal.
Rev-Did you get blueberries in Maine this year?
MDC-I've enjoyed seeing your vintage photos on FB!
Asa-how's your grandbabies?

Lots of people are missing lately!

Everyone have a great day!

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85101: Asa, Did not know you were a "Mr.Wizard" yea,it's all about the absence of heat. You did give a great rendering of how it works. Miss Crump needs to give you an A+ for that one!Wally's looking for a good carburetor man for when he goes on vacation, maybe you can apply?

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85102:
Morning porch family.....another day that the Lord has made! sure know more about fridges than Gomer...I guess you are the "Man"

Lucy....yep we picked some good ole wild Maine blueberries. It was a good year for them.

Possum.....prayers for your situation.

You all have a great day!
Love and prayers

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85103: Sorry to hear that, Possum. I will pray for you. Send me a message on FB if you need to talk.

Asa, I wish I could tell you how I felt about Perry but I am fairly ignorant on the subject at this point. I find myself in the quagmire of indecision when it comes to politicians (all of them)! How about Andy Griffith for president? :)

Plenty to do...better get at it.


August 17, 2011 - Msg 85104:
ASA- good explanation. I wonder now how i ever lived with evap coolers in my youth! Actually most of our schools here were evap cooled until the 80s!
As for fridges and freezers, I recall now reading how "ice plants" in the early 1900s were STEAMengine driven to start that amonia process. The ice was first used in boxcars to ship produce.
And you are right about us all being a bit are some folks and their flaws that GOD has used in His plan: Jacob was a cheater, Peter had a temper, David had an affair, Noah got drunk, Jonah ran from God, Paul was a murderer, Gideon was insecure, Miriam was a gossiper, Martha was a worrier, Thomas was a doubter, Sarah was impatient, Elijah was moody, Moses stuttered, Zaccheus was short, Abraham was old, and Lazarus was DEAD....(:
Prayers for Possum.

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85105: mentioned evap that anything like swamp coolers? I remember a lot of the churches that I did concerts while in AZ some years ago, had swamp coolers. Didn't seem to do a whole lot but I guess it helped some.

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85106:
Yes indeed, rev, and the theory was (and still is in many warehouses here where the big doors are wide open all day), you let water run thru 4 excelsior pads which enclose a "hamster wheel" style fan. The fan pulls the outside air thru the "cooled" pads and into the house. Only trouble was when the bits of excelsior would clog the recirc pump in the well at the bottom, and then the flow of water would stop and the pads would dry out and then smell like dead fish for about three days! Really! Also, if the humidity rose over about 20%, then for sure they were indeed useless. Lots of "Inherit the Wind" paper fans in those days, and yes, ASA, pun also intended on that title! haha
God bless,

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85107:
and hey to LUCY Matthews!

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85108: Oh yes, I remember swamp coolers. We had no a/c when I was growing up - a/c in a home was unheard of. However, my dad got a wild notion to put in a swamp cooler, exactly like MDC described. On a hot, dry day it did help. Then the dry heat changed to a humid heat, and suddenly our bed linens felt wet, you couldn't get dry after a bath, my brother's allergies went berserk, and the trim and stuff that was glued on furniture started to fall off! What a mess! I was 15 when we got our first refrigerated air conditioner, a one-ton Friedrich window unit, and it almost cooled the entire house. Daddy got another half-ton unit and put it in a window in the other end of the house, and between the two, we sat around under throws and blankets while watching TV! It was like heaven had descended to earth.

Very good explanation of the process, Asa. It filled some gaps for me. I already understood that to make something cold you have to remove heat. It's just like saying that to make a room dark, you have to remove light. Light can and will overcome darkness, but darkness cannot overcome light - Stephen Hawking and his theory of "black holes" notwithstanding. That's another story.

Does anyone remember the Kelvinator refrigerators and freezers? I do, my aunt had one. It was only in the last few days that it suddenly dawned on me that the brand name is a reference to the Kelvin scale of temperature reference. There's Fahrenheit, which we all use, and there's Celsius, which weather people seem to favor and which some pompous doctors like to use in their orders (Call me for a temp over 38 C, when they know full well our thermometers read in degrees F, and we're going to have to convert every time, the jerks.) Anyway, I think it's interesting that the Kelvinator refrigerator apparently derived its name from the Kelvin scale. What do you think of that, Asa? (heehee)

Well, I'm tired. A short nap in my chair this morning after a long night just wasn't enough. I've got to keep moving or I'm going to fall asleep with my nose in this keyboard. Blessings, friends! --Romeena

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85109: Ro, the only place I ever saw or used a swamp cooler was in those old cabins at Neal's Campground! Funny description about the trim on the furniture falling off! haha San Antonio is pretty humid in the summer, too. I remember when Dad put that first window unit air conditioner in our bedroom window when I was a kid. You're exactly right...heaven on earth! It wasn't until a few years later that we got one in the den. Imagine living here on the coast in the summer with the humidity in the 90% range most of the time. Horrid! I will never forget what it was like after Hurricane Celia, without water and electricity for almost 2 weeks in the beginning of August.

Asa, I have an easy, quick recipe for dessert. It is for chocolate chip cookie bars (or as I like to call them "Mr. Cookie Bars"!). All you do is take a dry cake mix..yellow or chocolate (I used german chocolate and it was great), empty it into a bowl, add 1/3 cup of canola or vegetable oil, 2 eggs, and mix until smooth..dough will be thick. Add 1 cup (or half a bag) of chocolate chips and mix in (you can also add nuts or whatever else you like)..will probably have to use your hands. Press into a 9x13 inch pan and bake at 350 degrees for 15 minutes. Cool and cut into squares. Really good and SIMPLE. The kids love them.

Better get back to the rest of dinner.


PS- MDC, I checked my blood pressure today and it was 116/66...can't beat that! :)

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85110:
Asa- "Ya put a mailbag, er..toolbelt, on some people and it goes right to their heads!" ha
RO- could those doctors be from india or that europe place? ha
Boo- right on with the BP. keep on truckin' ha

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85111: Boo, Does it help those sinking spells that come in the middle of the day? I bet not only the kids love'em, so do the small wirey dogs too! tends to settle them down when it storms!


August 17, 2011 - Msg 85112: Hello porch family. I hope everyone is doin well. Just sittin here lookin at my favorite TAGS episode - "The Pickle Story" - laughin up a storm.


August 17, 2011 - Msg 85113: Howdy, Rafe. Long time no visit. Don't be so scarce.

MDC, if those docs were from "someplace else" I would understand, and wouldn't see them as being pompous, but no, these are home-grown boys (and one girl). No excuse, just showing off, that's all. If they only knew how we nurses laugh at them behind their backs, they wouldn't be quite so quick to try to make us feel inferior. Besides, there's a little fact that runs through my mind when one of them is making a horse's patoot of himself - here it is - 50% of the doctors in practice today graduated in the bottom half of their class. Hahahahaha! So how do we know that Mr. Smartypants isn't one of them? Kinda makes ya thank, don't it?

Well, my supper is starting to smell "done" so guess I'd better go get it off the stove. Blessings, friends. --Romeena

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85114: Hey to Rafe. Shoo Fly! He's dead!
- Hazel

August 17, 2011 - Msg 85115:
Hazel-With all my dashing in and off the Porch lately, I missed your post on the 15th, Msg 85083. I love that post, thanks for sharing. I live in that neighborhood. I, with all my heart, believe in Jesus Christ and have Faith in Him. Religion? Not so much anymore.

Asa-I like Christie, a lot. I won't drone on about it but he's good. I like Perry a bit but he has a little too much Jim Jones in him I think. Takes himself way too seriously.


August 17, 2011 - Msg 85116: Hazel, I love that line from TAGS! haha

What Auh2o? Jim Jones?! Please explain that line of thinking! ;)

Well, I am sitting here smiling because I can't believe a my Texas history teacher from the 7th grade found me on Facebook. Too funny! I didn't even think she would remember me. Gotta love Facebook.

It's a warm, humid night here in south good for porch sittin'. Can't wait till those cool fronts start coming.


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85117: What cool fronts, Boo? Have you heard rumors? Tell me, quick!!! --Romeena

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85118: I wish!!...sniff...


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85119:
Morning Porch

Cool here this morning, not Fonzie cool but a nice 56 degrees.

Boo-The Jim Jones crack was just a slight, albeit very slight, bit of humor. Perry comes across, to me, a little too self evolved. We had a Governor awhile back, Mario Cuomo, who carried himself in the same manner. There were no intended religious overtones in the Jim Jones comparison. Maybe I should have said Elvis but I really like Elvis.


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85120: Shut up, Bernie, just shut up! 56 degrees! Humph! --Romeena

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85121: Ro&Boo, Just think when it starts getting cold every where else and you guys settle into the 70"s every one will envey you! Who get's the last laugh now Sheriff??? G-F

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85122:

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85123:
AUH20--is that farenheit or celcius or Kelven degrees? haha MDC

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85124: 56 degrees, Auh2o?! Well that's winter to us Texans. Boy, how I would love to feel 56 degrees again. Last night it was 84 degrees with high humidity at 11pm. Yuck.

Ok, i get it about Perry. Jim Jones-ish in his manner. Not really seeing it but I will pay closer attention. Now, you go enjoy your cool weather, Berney. ;)

Better go do some laundry or something.


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85125:
Hello porch family....that cool weather talk sounds nice. It was a little cooler here this morning. Took Jake for a walk early this morning and it was nice....but it didn't last long.

I'm kinda like everyone else about Perry. I don't know enough about him yet to make up my mind....but we will. Everything will be out before long and we'll know. But as I've said vote will go to anyone over what we have in office now.

We'll me and Jake are sitting here in the recliner together having some good ole "talk time"....well I'm doing all the talking, he just stares and licks me every once in a

You all have a great day.......and remember Jesus loves you and will always be there!

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85126:
MDC-That was Kelvin Fahrenheit. I believe, Asa correct me here if I'm wrong, Kelvin was the youngest of the Fahrenheit boys.


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85127: auh2o Gets 1 wheel chair bolt!

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85128: I thought their little sister, Celsius, was the youngest?? --Romeena

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85129: Oh, you said the youngest of the boys! You're probably right, but I think Celsius was the youngest child. --Romeena

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85130: Supper menu: Grilled Pork chops(sticky fingers bbq),cream taters,gravy,greenbeans,maude slaw,rolls,sweet tea....ready at 6:30...I got a paper Boo...SPOT

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85131: Hey Romeena, what do you think about when I say, "The Donkey Lady"??...


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85132:
Hogette? haha (:

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85133:
Andelina? (:

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85134:
Sounds like a good dim-sum at SPOT'S!
mmmmmdc (:

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85135: Y'all are gassed! LOL

possum under a rock

August 18, 2011 - Msg 85136: Possum, "put that in your smipe and poke it!"


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85137: Romeena will know what I'm talking about...I think.

Took the kids for a drive today to see "The Big Tree" near where we live. The thing is over 2,000 years old. Anyhow, while on my way there, I discovered an old chapel and cemetery dating back to before the civil war. Really old graves containing very young people. The oldest deceased person I came across was only fifty. Most were women in their 20's and thirties. Maybe women who died in childbirth. There was one year (1872) in which several died so may have been an epidemic of some kind.

Think I will go get my shower and read or something. I was going to sit outside but too hot even at 9pm. I'm gettin' really sick of this.


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85138: Speaking is so hot and dry here in Texas that I saw on the news that an old ghost town was uncovered as the waters of Lake Buchanan (near Austin) have gotten so low. We really need rain!


August 18, 2011 - Msg 85139:
The GON-NA-VER's comin' to see me!

August 19, 2011 - Msg 85140:
Boo....when it gets that dry it starts to get kinda scary....praying for rain!
I guess we can have a dance and just make it a rain dance:)

Well I'm heading to bed....Night porch family
Love and prayers!

August 19, 2011 - Msg 85141:
Hey, I think I'll do like barney and "throw my hat into the ring!" ha Love that ep where he tosses his hat on Andy's desk and Andy nonchalantly says..."Whadda you doin'?"
and barney says "I'm in." ha
I wonder where that whole "hat throwin'" thing came from?
Nite all,

August 19, 2011 - Msg 85142: Yeah, Boo, I've heard that one, but would never have thought of it if you hadn't mentioned it. I remember something about a woman who was badly burned and disfigured, and lost her mind. Supposedly she haunts an old bridge in the south part of town. Since I don't believe in "hauntings", I don't buy that part of it, and as to the story about the injured woman, it may just be an urban legend, or it might have some basis in fact. She may have been real, and lived as a homeless person near that bridge or something - that could have given rise to the haunting part of it.

It's still awfully hot here. 97 degrees at 11:18 p.m. I took the trash out to the street an hour or so back, and came in just wet and pretty much out of breath. The heat really does it to me. The cardiac meds I'm on keep my heart rate restrained, which keeps me from going into fibrillation, but it also keeps me from being able to keep up with any exertion. I'm fine under normal conditions, but have no reserves. Believe me, this can get annoying.

I was out on the driveway yesterday, and noticed that there was a heavy cloud cover, like there might have been some rain on the way. Three neighbors happened to be out at the same time, and we were all looking up at the sky. I suggested we put feathers in our hair and dance in the street. Two laughed, one just looked at me funny. I guess she thought I was serious. I've only met her a couple of times - she rarely comes out of her house. The other two I know pretty well, so they knew I was kidding. I almost wish we had done it, because the clouds just drifted away, and never releassd a drop.

Well, I think I'll toddle off to bed. I combed Toye Starr out thoroughly this evening, and we're both worn out. I think the only thing she hates worse than combing is getting a bath, poor little thing. She really needed it though, and she sure does look pretty now. I thought I was going to bathe her too, but now that she's combed and brushed out, she looks and smells clean, so I'll wait on the bath until later.

Blessings, friends! --Romeena

August 19, 2011 - Msg 85143: Ro, I mentioned it because I am currently reading a really fun book called, "Weird Texas" that goes into things like legends and such. I read about the donkey lady and interestingly someone gave an account of actually meeting her and visiting her make-shift home, which was made mostly of plywood. According to this person's account, she met her along the river and they had tea together and a couple of visits and that the "donkey lady" was really very nice. Funny how those legends get going. There were several in the book about places in your area, even one about the old Parkland hospital.

I need to go to bed!


August 19, 2011 - Msg 85144: Good Friday morning all. I hope and pray you are all fine and dandy this day.

I declare, I think this heat has touched y'all. LOL. Yes Ro and Auh2o, Kelvin has special meaning to me. I had heard sometime ago that about Kelvinator Romeena. I guess I ended up in the right job. Kelvin is also a measure of light shade used in industry. Seeings how most of my work is in fact in lighting, and HVAC work, by golly I ought to feel right at home. LOL

Boy, 97 degrees at 11.00 at night? And I imagine high humidity to boot. You poor things. Seriously, that just sounds nasty. You get even with us in Jan. though, when it's colder than a well diggers wallet here and you are in the 50's.

Boo, Thanks for the recipie. I will give that a shot sometime. I'm finding that I need to make a shopping list I guess, because everytime I want to try something different, I don't seem to have what I need on hand. And even though the market is just a few miles away, I'm not in the mood to go on a whim. (probably cause I have clean underwear on) lol. So I make something else.

Hope your rehab goes ok Lucy. My grandbabies are doing great, thanks for asking. My oldest Grandson has his first football game on Saturday and is he ever excited. He loves watching football. This is his first year of playing it. We'll see if he likes playing as much as watching. lol

Possum, I pray you are doing ok dear. You're still in my prayers.

Well gotta get this old bod rolling I reckon. Seems to take a lot to get it moving, and not much to get it stopped anymore. Wonder what causes that?

Prayers and blessings for all.